Members double rocker Posted January 6, 2005 Members Share Posted January 6, 2005 try to find something these days that's not made in china. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 Originally posted by BmajorMost production guitars are made overseas. What's your point? THE POINT IS IT'S THE LOWEST-END GUITAR JUNK LIKE STAGG OR SOMETHING!!!!!! U FEEL ME????? Originally posted by bronco Oh my gosh! No way! Like, gag me with a spoon. Like, no way. Go study your scales or something worthwhile and quit wasting posting space. ?????? Originally posted by double rockertry to find something these days that's not made in china. arias are made in korea, old ibanez are made in japan and/or korea. epiphones are made in korea. and so on and so on...that's about the arched tops of the price range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 More and more things are being made in China these days. All the Japanese electronic companies have been setting up factories in China as the labor force there will work for far less than other countries. Is the quality inferior? It depends from one factory to the next, just like when manufactoring started to take place in Japan then Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 yeah yeah sure... I know I know... I've been also told that artcore's quality is damn unbeatable for the cash... and I've even made sure in it myself!but u see... in my country when a guitarist hears a word 'China' his face immediately blurrs with a grin:- hey, where's your guitar made in?- china- ah... so you're just starting to play, huh?- no, I've been playing for five years already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 I'm not even refering to just the Artcore product. So many things are coming out of China. For example, I was looking at a Sony camera the other day, you know, Sony that huuuge Japanese company. Well this fairly expensive digital Sony camera was made in China. So the country that a product was made in does not determine quality any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 Originally posted by xStonr I'm not even refering to just the Artcore product. So many things are coming out of China. For example, I was looking at a Sony camera the other day, you know, Sony that huuuge Japanese company. Well this fairly expensive digital Sony camera was made in China. So the country that a product was made in does not determine quality any more. if so than why chinese squiers sound like crap and are made like crap but old korean/american squiers rule???why chinese stagg is made like crap while korean arias are of a high-quality??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members talou Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 here is mine AF75 Yesterday I just brought my Ibanez to a sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 I'm not quite sure if it is some news (hope it is), but I've just come across these models: Artcore Custom... I really doubt they're made in China (hey, they're CUSTOM anyway!!!) and they're good-priced (~$800)! check out these beauty-jazzers:This model has interested me most:the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members talou Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 waouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I hope to find them in Europe I suppose they are build for a part in Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted January 7, 2005 Members Share Posted January 7, 2005 Originally posted by ZHeN yeah yeah sure... I know I know... I've been also told that artcore's quality is damn unbeatable for the cash... and I've even made sure in it myself! but u see... in my country when a guitarist hears a word 'China' his face immediately blurrs with a grin: - hey, where's your guitar made in? - china - ah... so you're just starting to play, huh? - no, I've been playing for five years already... I've been playing for 28 years and own several Chinese made guitars and basses. Their quality has really improved in the last couple of years. I have an Ibanez Artcore AM73T, an OLP MM1, an Eleca LP copy, an SX Jazz bass copy, and an OLP MM2 stingray bass copy. They are all fine instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members javaCat Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 Well, Ive had my artcore for about 2 weeks now. I ordered a case for it last night. I have an asf75t, I ordered the Ibanez Af100c case, now the af100c case is for the AF85, which to me is the same as my asf75t but without the bigsby, would that be right? The case that Ibanez says I need is the as100c, it looks the same to me, lol. So should I send the case back when I get it, or try out the af100c and see if it fits? Do you guys think itd fit? Im emailing ibanez too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bmajor Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 Originally posted by javaCat Well, Ive had my artcore for about 2 weeks now. I ordered a case for it last night. I have an asf75t, I ordered the Ibanez Af100c case, now the af100c case is for the AF85, which to me is the same as my asf75t but without the bigsby, would that be right? The case that Ibanez says I need is the as100c, it looks the same to me, lol. So should I send the case back when I get it, or try out the af100c and see if it fits? Do you guys think itd fit? Im emailing ibanez too. FWIW: A couple of us have had bad experiences with Ibanez cases and the lining detaching. BTW: Don't necessarily believe what Ibz says regarding fit. They claim the AG100C fits a TM71 Talman. It doesn't and even if it did I would've returned it because of the lining. Do you have Ibanez's email? They have no contact info on their website that I've ever been able to find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 Got a call that my As73 came into so naturally, I had to leave work early to pick it up. All I can say is WHOA....what a nice guitar. The fit and finish is awesome. Bound body, neck, and f holes. Nice smooth neck too. I am really impressed with this Ibanez. I remember an old ad for Ibanez that went..."Best Damn Production Guitar Around". I have to admit it is true. For now, I am really liking how the pickups sound. Especially through my Vintage 16 amp. I connected it to the amp with an old cloth braided cable I had so now I really have this vintage vibe thing going. The sticker says it's make in China. The quality of product is determined by the specs given to the manufactores. If a Chinese product is shabby it's probably because the Q.C. people at that plant didn't give a crap. Which is not the case with this guitar. I ordered it with the AS100c case and it fits great. It has a nice plush blue velour interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members javaCat Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 What other case could you reccomend? I have heard the same about ibanez cases, but I really needed a case, so I just got what (at the time i thought) was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bmajor Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 It has a nice plush blue velour interior. Check closely where the lining is attached to the interior wall of the case. Originally posted by javaCat What other case could you reccomend? I have heard the same about ibanez cases, but I really needed a case, so I just got what (at the time i thought) was the best. Here is the thread. I found a cheap MF alternative but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I think AVJ is still looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 2 javaCat: I think you've mistaken the name of your model - it's AFS75T, not ASF75T. I guess Ibanez thought that your model is AS serie (since such model doesn't even exist - ASF75T). AF100C is for AF series guitars, which your guitar is (I guess), so u shouldn't #@!$ your and our brains with this.http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/products/eg/page/AFS75TTRD.html - is this your guitar?!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members double rocker Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 what about Epi cases? i've read somewhere on HC that they are okay, and it looks like at least the AS styles would fit. anyone have any info? otherwise, i'm going to talk to my local music places about used cases. they're often half the price of new, and if they've held up that long already they're usually constructed well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members javaCat Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 ZHeN thanks man, I think youre right Ibanez probably just screwed up. Very cool though, this means I wont have to wait any longer to ship out another case. Gracias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 8, 2005 Members Share Posted January 8, 2005 Originally posted by javaCat ZHeN thanks man, I think youre right Ibanez probably just screwed up. Very cool though, this means I wont have to wait any longer to ship out another case. Gracias. you're welcome it's not them, who screwed up u did it, man u spelled the model name wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members javaCat Posted January 9, 2005 Members Share Posted January 9, 2005 I just checked it out, finally found a site that had the dimensions. The af100c is too deep for my guitar, so I went and ordered the as100c. Checked around, the as100c is for shallower bodies, which mine is. Plus, Ibanez themselves said it was for the afs75t so, I checked around with some dealers and they said that thatd be the best fit. Although, AMS was very helpfull with it, so I thank them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wiz-kid Posted January 9, 2005 Members Share Posted January 9, 2005 u see... in my country when a guitarist hears a word 'China' his face immediately blurrs with a grin: - hey, where's your guitar made in? - china - ah... so you're just starting to play, huh? - no, I've been playing for five years already... You forgot the part where you play a lot better then him and get a better tone And why do you care what they all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 9, 2005 Members Share Posted January 9, 2005 Originally posted by wiz-kid You forgot the part where you play a lot better then him and get a better tone in my humble opinion!!!!! you see in my local guitar community it is considered that if you ain't tappin with distortion and ain't squelin with floyd like satriani - you're no good player... so for me it's just not real to play better... even if I play Donna Lee in original Parker's tempo.so they'd sure say my chinese guitar ROCKS if I played with distortion on a guitar that would be some superstrat solidbody with floyd ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wiz-kid Posted January 9, 2005 Members Share Posted January 9, 2005 in my humble opinion!!!!! you see in my local guitar community it is considered that if you ain't tappin with distortion and ain't squelin with floyd like satriani - you're no good player... so they'd sure say my chinese guitar ROCKS if I played with distortion on a guitar that would be some superstrat solidbody with floyd ... Sorry, I take it there's not many Jazzers there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZHeN Posted January 9, 2005 Members Share Posted January 9, 2005 not really many... and if there are some - they were rockers when were young and now they've come to the best - jazz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cort Posted January 9, 2005 Members Share Posted January 9, 2005 I measured my Arcore humbucker's impedance and got 8.55 & 16.6K ohms reading. Why does the bridge pickup's impedance is so high? What is yours? Both are great soudning humbucers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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