Members FoonkySteve Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ok. What is the general concensus around here as to what kind of order Squier models/origin of manufacture go? So...... All i (think) i know is: Top of the pile = MIJ 80s - 90s ? Then where sits; CIC, Made in Indonesian, Korean, etc...? Then there's the indiviual series: affinity, bullet, se, standard, CV, VM, artist, etc..? 2 reasons for asking: 1. my buddy just won a CIC2001 Squier Strat on ebay, and is asking me how it will compare to his MIJ Squier. (it's not really his MIJ, he has it on long term loan, and is feeling guilty about not having his own guitar, hence the ebay score) 2. I am just about to score tonight (local ad) an unknown Squier with an amp, stand, gig bag, and let's not forget the all important pics! for a mere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I dont know a lot about Squiers, but i do love the shit out of anything made in indonesia MII guitars are the best bang for buck guitars around IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I don't think the MIJ 80s - 90s are top of the pile anymore. Some of the new sqiers out of China and Indonesia have better quality everything than those old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C-4 Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I would judge each guitar on it's own merits, rather then search for a heirarchy.As an example, I love pink guitars and bought just for {censored}s and giggles, a Bullet Squire pink Strat. It costs $119. The neck is straighter then most Fenders I have owned. It stays in tune ridiculously, even with the nasty basic tuners it has. The neck pocket is tighter then most Fenders I have seen, and it actually has a good, lightweight, resonant body.If I replaced the all hardware and entire electric assembly, it would be a terrific guitar to play out, but to spend 2-3 times what the actual guitar is worth, is not a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FoonkySteve Posted June 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I don't think the MIJ 80s - 90s are top of the pile anymore. Some of the new sqiers out of China and Indonesia have better quality everything than those old ones. Good stuff's this is what im after. So......... some of the current stuffs, are as good as The highly regarded MIJ's? Is this like 'a really good time' to buy a new squier? Also i didn't know they were made out of both China and Indonesia Just now!? Does one origin make a particular series and then the other , another series? Keep the info coming, i'm learning more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 8, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2011 Some of the VM series were made in India as well IIRC BTW Steve, your PM box is full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 The "Vintage Modified" series is usually made in Indonesia and stuff like the classic vibes are MIC. There may be exceptions but not that I know of. From my experience, MIIs have unfinished necks while the MICs have the dipped-in-a-vat-of-molten-plastic style necks. Also the VM series sport the Duncan Designed pickups, which are apparently hit and miss My duncan designed p90s in my telecustom 2 are some of the best ive ever hear tho... love that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 8, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2011 ^^^^The "Vintage Modified" series is usually MII Aaaah but India or Indonesia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackCat Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm far from an expert but the fit and finish on my recently acquired Indonesian Jaguar is really nice. I didn't have to do anything beyond set the intonation. At the moment I have no upgrades planned. I really don't think it needs any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I would judge each guitar on it's own merits, rather then search for a heirarchy. As an example, I love pink guitars and bought just for shits and giggles, a Bullet Squire pink Strat. It costs $119. The neck is straighter then most Fenders I have owned. It stays in tune ridiculously, even with the nasty basic tuners it has. The neck pocket is tighter then most Fenders I have seen, and it actually has a good, lightweight, resonant body. If I replaced the all hardware and entire electric assembly, it would be a terrific guitar to play out, but to spend 2-3 times what the actual guitar is worth, is not a good idea. My Squier Bullet is actually my "go to" strat these days. Picked it up at a pawn shop for $70 and it had an after market pickguard with CS Texas Specials in it... [video=youtube;-nSsPT3Uzis] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FoonkySteve Posted June 8, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Also the VM series sport the Duncan Designed pickups, which are apparently hit and miss My duncan designed p90s in my telecustom 2 are some of the best ive ever hear tho... love that thing. We are Tele Custom ii brothers! I got's the blonde one too, i frikin love that guitar it plays soooo well, although i am not as keen on the p90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Putting my flame suit on.... Quality in order from my experience1. MIJ / CIJ by a wide margin. I'm sorry but none of the newer stuff can touch it.2. Korean MIK Pro Tone Series3. CV Series4. VM Series5. Squier Standard6. Affinity7. Bullet There are various countries of origin and factories for several of these. Personally I've found the CY or Yako made Chinese Squiers to be much better than their price. There are some good Indonesian ones like the VM Series but the Indonesian Affinitys are crap compared to the Chinese ones. Anything can and has been built for a price point and every factory is capable of whatever quality Fender wants to pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lonnie99 Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've probably owned more Squiers than most and my money still goes to the Standard Series or the old MIM Fender Squier Series (although EVERY seller on ebay SWEARS their Squier Series is NOT a Squier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 We are Tele Custom ii brothers! I got's the blonde one too, i frikin love that guitar it plays soooo well, although i am not as keen on the p90's. You dont like the p90s!!?? I love the ones in mine, would be the perfect pickups if they were humcancelling, but unfortunately thats not how it works *sigh* Ive been tempted to try putting some mini hums in it but i cant justify changing a guitar im so happy with, maybe you should give it a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Don't forget about Squier Made In USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Chen Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Putting my flame suit on....Quality in order from my experience1. MIJ / CIJ by a wide margin. I'm sorry but none of the newer stuff can touch it.2. Korean MIK Pro Tone Series3. CV Series4. VM Series5. Squier Standard6. Affinity7. BulletThere are various countries of origin and factories for several of these. Personally I've found the CY or Yako made Chinese Squiers to be much better than their price. There are some good Indonesian ones like the VM Series but the Indonesian Affinitys are crap compared to the Chinese ones. Anything can and has been built for a price point and every factory is capable of whatever quality Fender wants to pay for. I'd slightly modify for the reasons noted: 1. MIK Pro Tone - These were absolutely blingy and top notch quality. I think almost every model had upgradse like double binding, translucent finishes, painted headstock, aged parts, gold hardware(when it enhanced the looks). Squier really took a custom look approach to these instruments. 2. MIJ/CIJ - Needless to say, these guitars eventually carried the full fledged Fender logo. Everything else I 100% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Those VM Squiers were ace, and I was particularly happy to see that India was getting in on the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Don't forget about Squier Made In USA what years were those made?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slushpup96 Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I played a Classic Vibe strat and thought it was better than a MIM Fender Strat sitting right next to it. I might've played a bad MIM though, because that was literally one of the worst necks I've ever played on. Might just be a bad setup... Point is, I really liked the Classic Vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sale83 Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've probably owned more Squiers than most and my money still goes to the Standard Series or the old MIM Fender Squier Series (although EVERY seller on ebay SWEARS their Squier Series is NOT a Squier). You mean this? Even Fender said that they are Fenders with the small squier series sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snappy Hat Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I have a made in India one with amazing flame . I got a friend with one also like this but more birdseye. But the rest of it is way sub par to my MIJ ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Annoying Twit Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've already posted this ebay listing on another forum. This Squier Standard Strat is IMHO, really nice looking. I like the colours, the finishing, IMHO it just looks great. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Squier-Standard-Strat-/110697936547?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19c61c76a3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Given that MIK and MIJ Squiers are overpriced (IMO), I think it's best to get a newish Squier, any of the Indonesian and Chinese ones made in the past 4-5 years have been quite good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattKirkcaldie Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I don't think the MIJ 80s - 90s are top of the pile anymore. Some of the new sqiers out of China and Indonesia have better quality everything than those old ones. Sorry, but that sounds like the view of someone who's never tried one of the 80s MIJs. They are like night and day compared to the new MIC and MII models. I know, I've owned and tried Squier 51s and Classic Vibes. The latter are great, but nothing even touches my 83 MIJ: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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