Members metal0822 Posted November 7, 2010 Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 Maybe this is old news, but check out this speaker. You can adjust it to find the right spot for your amp. Anyone have experience with it? http://eminence.com/guitar_speaker_reignmaker.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members headless Posted November 7, 2010 Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boogieplaya Posted November 7, 2010 Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 Sounds promising.. $189.00 is pretty pricey for an Eminence, though maybe they will come down after the newness wears off. I'd like to try one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metal0822 Posted November 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 o, i didnt realize how expensive they were. still though, id like to get my hands on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted November 7, 2010 Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 Sounds pretty sweet! It's not any more expensive than a Celstion Blue or Gold... They make fantastic speakers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Padrino Posted November 7, 2010 Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 thats pretty cool. I'd really like to see how that sounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MONGOOZ Posted November 7, 2010 Members Share Posted November 7, 2010 that is pretty cool.....but it really only lends itself to an open/semi open back 1x12 cabinet. wouldn't work so well in a 4x12. but still....it's pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metal0822 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 well, you would really only need to set it once, just so its the best possible match for your amp, then close it up. im not sure i would want easy access to it all the time, i get distracted enough by guitar knobs plus pedal knobs plus amp knobs. the last thing i need is another thing to adjust while trying to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman3001 Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Sounds promising.. $189.00 is pretty pricey for an Eminence, though maybe they will come down after the newness wears off. I'd like to try one. for a speaker with a built in attenuator, that doesn't sound too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Like to try one in a cab for modler units. Like in a Power engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hecticone Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 well, you would really only need to set it once, just so its the best possible match for your amp, then close it up. im not sure i would want easy access to it all the time, i get distracted enough by guitar knobs plus pedal knobs plus amp knobs. the last thing i need is another thing to adjust while trying to play. How do you set it with the back open to emulate a closed cab sound. It would be trial and error. Tweak it close it up play. Don't like start again. Repeat until it sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metal0822 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 true. my old hughes and kettner 212 had a half open back that had a panel you could close it with. it had holes to put your hands through and was attached around the edges with velcro. opening and closing it took but 5 seconds and minimal effort. i never would have sold it if i didnt have to downsize to a combo, it was great looking and well built, wired in stereo with celestions all for like 200 used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hecticone Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Had that same cab. Forgot whatever happened to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Just another clever marketing tool in my opinion. Just get the best speaker you can for your budget put it in your amp or cab and let your amp and tone controls on your guitar do what they were intended for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 If it really works...I think it would be awesome...especially in something like a Hot Rod Deluxe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Guitar Player gave both this one and the Patriot equivalent a great review. I gotta say, I'm intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yeah, like with anything new...there will be a lot of naysayers...I'm sure that there were a ton of them when attenuators first came out. Can't wait to try one, personally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yeah, like with anything new...there will be a lot of naysayers...I'm sure that there were a ton of them when attenuators first came out. Can't wait to try one, personally... I think they are a great idea. But I'm stuck with whatever speaker they decide to offer with it. And the speaker does a ton of tone-shaping for any amp. With an outboard attenuator I can buy one and use it for every amp I need to, and still use vintage speakers, Weber, Scumback, Celestion. Eminence doesn't make a good C12N clone like the Weber 12F150. With the Eminence I would have to buy all new speakers and can't yet get the technology on the Eminence of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Radar-Love Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Maybe this is old news... It's old news, but worth regurgitating: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2560559 As mentioned by Wyatt, I'd normally just go with an external power soaker over a speaker with a built-in attenuator. However, I'd consider that Eminence Flux Density Modulation (FDM) speaker was if I had a single speaker combo that I gigged with that had an open/semi-open back. At least you wouldn't have to carry around an outboard power soaker to be able to attenuate your output when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yeah, like with anything new...there will be a lot of naysayers...I'm sure that there were a ton of them when attenuators first came out. Can't wait to try one, personally... Oh, I'm not saying it doesn't work but I can't see it doing anything that a good amp, pedal, multi-effects unit doesn't already do and not as good as spending the money on an overall better standard speaker. That's why I called it marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Oh, I'm not saying it doesn't work but I can't see it doing anything that a good amp, pedal, multi-effects unit doesn't already do and not as good as spending the money on an overall better standard speaker. That's why I called it marketing. The idea is to allow for power amp overdrive...something a pedal or multi-effector won't do. And a good amp doesn't often do at manageable levels. If you want that '60's and '70's Marshall tone, you have to get the power tubes hot; in a high-gain amp, which usually runs a clean power amp, it wouldn't be as important. The idea behind attenuators is simple, crank the $#!+ out of the amp (especially a non-master volume amp) and attenuate the signal before it reaches the speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ExiledCrow Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Fantastic idea! And when the time comes that my playing ever reaches a stage where this kind of control becomes a factor, I'll look at them again ... hm, probably about three days after never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 The idea is to allow for power amp overdrive...something a pedal or multi-effector won't do. And a good amp doesn't often do at manageable levels. If you want that '60's and '70's Marshall tone, you have to get the power tubes hot; in a high-gain amp, which usually runs a clean power amp, it wouldn't be as important. The idea behind attenuators is simple, crank the $#!+ out of the amp (especially a non-master volume amp) and attenuate the signal before it reaches the speaker. OK, got it! Now, what do they have for Fender amp lovers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metalrulez Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 I would like to hear this thing. It just might be the answer to my Bedrock being all but useless in the house. And as an added plus I get the amusement of reading the post about how this is not needed,wont work,the devils work and other off the wall technophobe guitarist babble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 I should note that this thing works by making the speaker less efficient (sensitivity ranging from 91-100db). So, if you are already using an efficient speaker (for example a Legend 1258, 100db), it'll allow you the same volume or less. But if your stock speaker is a Greenback (93db) or other inefficient speaker, the maximum attenuation isn't going to be that big of drop from what you have already. Don't expect bedroom levels from this. Each 3db drop is like halving your output wattage. So it all depends on what your stock speaker is now. If there is more to it than that it isn't evident from their description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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