Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 I was well into bidding for this, as the seller and the whole demeanour of the guitar looked pretty kosher. The only issue the seller highlighted in the listing was that it had a "top quality refret" Now there's quite a few of us on here that have seen a few refrets in our time, and I'm wondering how many of you would designate this "top quality" There's two ways of refretting a Gibson bound board 1. Remove old frets, remove fret nibs, refret over and including the binding 2. Carefully remove frets, replicate each fret lengthwise painstakingly and refret between the nibs There is the third option of removing the binding, fretting and putting new binding on and scraping to replicate Gibson's fret end stylee, but thats a tad more than a refret, closer to refurbish/refinish work But whoever fretted this found another way, and it's worthy of the double facepalm Refret, between the binding and remove the nibs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 *Homer Simpson voice* Mmmmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 *Homer Simpson voice* Mmmmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 Pheewwww ... Come to think of it, those block inlays were a vital clue I overlooked ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 Pheewwww ... I "handled" a 64 on Satdeh in t'local emporium aftre a "guitar from the year you were born" thread last week, and I'd developed a severe 64 sized chink in my of late very strong armour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 There is another way to refret Gibsons, Dan Erlewine does it. Take the SG in question, dissolve some binding material mixed with a bit of toner so it matches the original, and paint the nibs onto the fret ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members harold heckuba Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 There is another way to refret Gibsons, Dan Erlewine does it. Take the SG in question, dissolve some binding material mixed with a bit of toner so it matches the original, and paint the nibs onto the fret ends. This is the easiest way, it has caught on so fast that even the local luthiers where i live do it this way now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 This is the easiest way, it has caught on so fast that even the local luthiers where i live do it this way now. So, it gets painted on, then shaped? Problem is with an oldish guitar the top surface is gonna be whitish while the outside face should be sorta same colour as the discouloured lacquer on the neck? Ain't there a whole lotta colour matching issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 So, it gets painted on, then shaped? Problem is with an oldish guitar the top surface is gonna be whitish while the outside face should be sorta same colour as the discouloured lacquer on the neck?Ain't there a whole lotta colour matching issues? Yes thats why he mentions toner to color the nib material. I've seen a few and if done right they dont look bad. Normally they will try to match the frets between the nibs then the ones that are lost need to be recreated. I cant see trying to make them all if you dont have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 I "handled" a 64 on Satdeh in t'local emporium aftre a "guitar from the year you were born" thread last week, and I'd developed a severe 64 sized chink in my of late very strong armour '64? You were LUCKY! I was born in 1951 ... so the only solidbodies to choose from would be first-year Teles and P-Basses ... or eye-wateringly expensive Gibsons, Martins etc ... A Clash memory ... bumping into Mick Jones in Manhattan the afternoon before they played the Palladium. He'd just returned from 48th St clutching a guitar case. It was raining so he didn't open it up for inspection, but he told me, 'I've just bought a guitar that's older than I am.' Jonesy was born in 1955 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 '64? You were LUCKY! I was born in 1951 ... so the only solidbodies to choose from would be first-year Teles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 are the nibs a cosmetic thing only or do they affect playability at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 are the nibs a cosmetic thing only or do they affect playability at all? They're actually a production consideration, but have become a sort of badge of pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 are the nibs a cosmetic thing only or do they affect playability at all? Here is the most appropriate way if you don't mind losing the nibs, you also get more fret to bend and more mass for tone;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah, try finding an original of those ...RIs don't count ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted September 26, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah, try finding an original of those ...RIs don't count ... I've got one keepin me shed door closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted September 26, 2011 Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 Here is the most appropriate way if you don't mind losing the nibs, you also get more fret to bend and more mass for tone;) And, IMHO, the way they should be done at the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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