Members Tone Deaf Posted November 14, 2011 Members Share Posted November 14, 2011 don't worry, the boomers are starting to die off. progress will eventually be made. That's classy. You know, when the boomers do "start to die off" and they leave behind their vintage Gibsons and Fenders, I'll bet my left nut that the same people who run down the classic guitars today will suddenly be singing a different song should they be so fortunate to inherit one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 14, 2011 Members Share Posted November 14, 2011 That's classy.You know, when the boomers do "start to die off" and they leave behind their vintage Gibsons and Fenders, I'll bet my left nut that the same people who run down the classic guitars today will suddenly be singing a different song should they be so fortunate to inherit one. please kill me if i become one of those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted November 14, 2011 Members Share Posted November 14, 2011 Seth Lover made P90 equipped Gibsons hum cancelling in the middle position? Yeah, we're all aware that humbuckers exist. Thanks, though. No, but in Gibson's head back then, the humbucker made the P90 obsolete. I can't say what they've been thinking since. P100, I guess. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 Anybody know why the neck pickup isn't rwrp on Gibsons with 2 P90's? Tele's are the same setup, 2 single coils, and are hum cancelling (at least the modern ones are...), so it's obviously possible... Just something I've wondered about for a while. Anybody have any insight? Because that's the way they were in 1957....:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jpnyc Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 Hum emphasizes the tone of illegal rosewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 Because that's the way they were in 1957....:poke: It probably is this. Another reason is that I've been told that the humcancelling is only or at least most effective when the pickups are at smililar outputs. That is, that they would humcancel with both pickups at 10, but turn one of them down and you reintroduce the hum. Can anyone confirm this? I've only ever har rwrp pickups in guitars with a single volume so I've never had that issue, but I can see why humcancelling might be thought less efficient with a double volume setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PrawnHeed Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 It probably is this.Another reason is that I've been told that the humcancelling is only or at least most effective when the pickups are at smililar outputs. That is, that they would humcancel with both pickups at 10, but turn one of them down and you reintroduce the hum. Can anyone confirm this? I've only ever har rwrp pickups in guitars with a single volume so I've never had that issue, but I can see why humcancelling might be thought less efficient with a double volume setup. Yes, the hum would cancel in exactly the same way as the signals add. This is not as big an issue as it might seem, as the signal adding with 2 passive volume controls is not very linear. Particularly in Gibsons where turning either volume to zero gives you zero output (and wouldalso give zero hum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members =JL= Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 The simple answer is, what is the point? Why have one out of three positions hum-cancelling? What if you want to use the other two positions (which most people do, most of the time)? I never understood it on Strats, either. Only the two Cheezy Ray Vaughn sounds are hum-cancelling. What about the rest of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 Yes, the hum would cancel in exactly the same way as the signals add. This is not as big an issue as it might seem, as the signal adding with 2 passive volume controls is not very linear. Particularly in Gibsons where turning either volume to zero gives you zero output (and wouldalso give zero hum). I agree but i also see why someone at Gibson would think "humcancelling that works some of the time" isn't much of a catchfrase saleswise, and that might be one reason not to put it on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigTimeFun Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 I guess it would be okay if it was a one volume knob guitar, but if you're blending in the middle position it just seems a worse than bad idear to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted November 15, 2011 Members Share Posted November 15, 2011 The simple answer is, what is the point? Why have one out of three positions hum-cancelling? What if you want to use the other two positions (which most people do, most of the time)? I never understood it on Strats, either. Only the two Cheezy Ray Vaughn sounds are hum-cancelling. What about the rest of us? I've gigged places with so much noise from the electric system that the humcancelling positions on my strat absolutely saved the gig for me. But yeah, i'd be nice to have all of them like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electric Catfish Posted November 16, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2011 I've gigged places with so much noise from the electric system that the humcancelling positions on my strat absolutely saved the gig for me. But yeah, i'd be nice to have all of them like that There's one place I play occasionally where I learned I absolutely can't use my LP Special. The strat hum is bearable there, though...the P90's are noisier than Fender SC's are, seems to me. I can see the "obsolete" thing, far as the invention of the HB in the 50's went, but, OTOH, they continued to make P90 guitars (or was there a gap where they didn't?), and save the historic, supposedly dead-on reissues, I can't imagine why they don't now, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ijams Posted November 17, 2011 Members Share Posted November 17, 2011 A hum canceling p90 set of pups reverse wound should sound great,as a humbucker is 2 single coils reverse wound is !I have set of HB sized p90s in 2 guitars now,the Gibson p94t is hum canceling if i replace my neck with a Gibson p94r reverse wound !They seem to be up with the reality of hum issue on pickups,unforgivable is there LP tribute with P90s and no shielding in the wiring cavity?Its a nightmare ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultradust Posted November 17, 2011 Members Share Posted November 17, 2011 Been posted a few times now, I got a "matching" pair of Kent Armstrongs in my plywood G310. Decent P90s for the money, almost disturbingly quiet in mid-position. 2cHZzXRQjrE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mnhhngbfs Posted November 17, 2011 Members Share Posted November 17, 2011 when i was trying out SG classics a few years ago i could have sworn they were RWRP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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