Members -TJ- Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 Rose Pickups New Dawn or California, as good as anything mentioned and costs less, www.rosepickups.com have you tried all those other things mentioned or are you just blindly pimping Rose pickups as per usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 I Can vouch for the Rose New Dawn as well as Day Breaker. Bothe excellent pickups. Ken does very good work. The New Dawn is as vintage as it gets, while the Day Breaker is more of a rockabilly flavor. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -TJ- Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 I Can vouch for the Rose New Dawn as well as Day Breaker. Bothe excellent pickups. Ken does very good work. The New Dawn is as vintage as it gets, while the Day Breaker is more of a rockabilly flavor. EG and I got no problem with people supporting small builders.... but diceman borders on shill when it comes to his constant rose pickups promotion... a simple "Rose pickups new dawn or california are a great option" would suffice... unless youve really tried all there is out there, dont make claims as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 So, basically ... Every full-service pickup manufacturer, from boutique to mass-market, from tiny to huge ... will offer a PAF-style low-output 'bucker option. That narrows things down ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 So, basically ...Every full-service pickup manufacturer, from boutique to mass-market, from tiny to huge ... will offer a PAF-style low-output 'bucker option. That narrows things down ... Yup. The "secret" to a good PAF isn't much of a secret these days. The real secret to PAFs is that the originals were supposedly all over the place. Some hot, some not, some even, some mismatched. The 57 Classic and Seth Lovers are based on the drawings, with even coils. Burstbuckers have mismatched coils, which give more bite. That seems to be the big difference between the two flavors. I prefer the smoother sound of the even coils. Others like the edge of the mismatch. That's just preference. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted December 14, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2011 SThe real secret to PAFs is that the originals were supposedly all over the place. Some hot, some not, some even, some mismatched. The 57 Classic and Seth Lovers are based on the drawings, with even coils. Burstbuckers have mismatched coils, which give more bite. That seems to be the big difference between the two flavors. I prefer the smoother sound of the even coils. Others like the edge of the mismatch. That's just preference. EG It's strange that while it's almost universally accepted that Al II, IV and V unpotted are the way to go that Gibson offres no unpotted Al IVs or Vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's strange that while it's almost universally accepted that Al II, IV and V unpotted are the way to go that Gibson offres no unpotted Al IVs or Vs Does gibson offer anything with A4 now? EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted December 14, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2011 Does gibson offer anything with A4 now?EG Nope, not as far as I know:idk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 Nope, not as far as I know:idk: I had some A4 Rose Day Breakers that were sweet sounding. Leaned a little to the Gretsch side. I don't know if that was the magnet or other factors, but for a mildy high output pickup, they were very clear. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted December 14, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 So, basically ...Every full-service pickup manufacturer, from boutique to mass-market, from tiny to huge ... will offer a PAF-style low-output 'bucker option. That narrows things down ... I think I want something with a lower than PAF output. I have two PAF's and they sound great, but for what I have in mind I think I want something a bit less powerful if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted December 14, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think I want something with a lower than PAF output. I have two PAF's and they sound great, but for what I have in mind I think I want something a bit less powerful if that makes sense. PAFs are considered to be vintage (ie low wind) pickups and those with Al II magnets are the lowest....so you're down there already really, unless you get a boutique winder to wind you summat in the 4-5k range, which at the bridge ain't that good.....very low winds in the neck can be uber sweet...but not at the bridge Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates would be a great way to go, Fender use them on the HSS setups to great effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 I Can vouch for the Rose New Dawn as well as Day Breaker. Bothe excellent pickups. Ken does very good work. The New Dawn is as vintage as it gets, while the Day Breaker is more of a rockabilly flavor. EG I got the Day Breaker set from EG and they were great pickups. I installed them in a customer's Epi Dot and he absolutely loves them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 have you tried all those other things mentioned or are you just blindly pimping Rose pickups as per usual? Not ALL of them. The Dimarzio 36th yes. But, I did, in fact, have a set of $300 Florance Voo Doo '59s in my SG when I got it and they're being replaced by a set of Californias. Now, don't get me wrong, the Voo Doos are wonderful, and from my understanding suppose to be among the best, but I prefer my hand wound Rose Pickups that I own... To my ears they sounded better anyway. But hey, the Californias will only be ny 4th set of Rose hand wounds, so I guess my experience I limited:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thecornman Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 If you are looking for a low output pickup that is lower then a standard Paf maybe check out the Dimarzio Humbucker From Hell! Don't let the name fool you it is not a metal pickup by any means! It is a great pickup in the neck with a hotter pickup in the bridge, but also works really well in the bridge with single coils! It can be a little bright in the bridge so it is a good idea to make sure you hook it up to a tone pot! It almost has a single coil on steriods sound in the bridge with no noise and cuts through a mix super well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think I want something with a lower than PAF output. I have two PAF's and they sound great, but for what I have in mind I think I want something a bit less powerful if that makes sense. talk to Bill Lawrence about his L500C pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Musicscotty Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think I want something with a lower than PAF output. I have two PAF's and they sound great, but for what I have in mind I think I want something a bit less powerful if that makes sense. The only experience I've had with lower output humbuckers is the BKP Stormy Monday. I've yet to hear a clip that didn't sound great, although I'm not sure how it would sound in a Strat. http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=humbuckers?=vintage&pickup=stormy_monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mel Cooley Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 As already noted, lots to choose from. I still like the Duncan Seth Lover over all. Do keep in mind they aren't potted. If you play any high gain stuff you'll (eventually) be in for some screechin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strung_Out Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 I like the idea of a low output humbucker, hopefully with wonderful tone, to put in an HSS configuration. I'm thinking of a pickup that would be pretty much balanced with the single coils but a little fuller and maybe just a little louder.Any ideas? How low output are you looking for? Pretty much every winder has they're flavor of low wind PAF replica in the 7.0 - 8.0k output range, at that it's pretty much just pick your price range, listen to clips, and then go with your gut. If you're looking for something lower output than that Lollar just came out with a super low output pickup, The El Rayo, which is supposed to be designed to match up with single coils, another option would be Reilander who's humbuckers are in the 6.0k range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted December 14, 2011 Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 If you are looking for a low output pickup that is lower then a standard Paf maybe check out the Dimarzio Humbucker From Hell! Don't let the name fool you it is not a metal pickup by any means! It is a great pickup in the neck with a hotter pickup in the bridge, but also works really well in the bridge with single coils! It can be a little bright in the bridge so it is a good idea to make sure you hook it up to a tone pot! It almost has a single coil on steriods sound in the bridge with no noise and cuts through a mix super well! +1It's also crystal clear! Very articulate pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted December 14, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2011 How low output are you looking for? Pretty much every winder has they're flavor of low wind PAF replica in the 7.0 - 8.0k output range, at that it's pretty much just pick your price range, listen to clips, and then go with your gut. If you're looking for something lower output than that Lollar just came out with a super low output pickup, The El Rayo, which is supposed to be designed to match up with single coils, another option would be Reilander who's humbuckers are in the 6.0k range. Those two sound like what I have in mind! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unclemeat Posted December 15, 2011 Members Share Posted December 15, 2011 The Dimarzio Virtual Vintage PAFs were great. I think the closest they still make are the 36th Anniversary PAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnychromatic Posted April 9, 2013 Members Share Posted April 9, 2013 Dean Flathead bridge is awesome. I use it with Texas specials on a 250k pot. Incredibly smooth and clear. Great for fusion ala Holdsworth, Howe, etc. Highly recommended and pretty affordable. 7.9k alnico 2 magnet. The Nostalgia is also killer. Alittle brghter and hotter. 8.1 alnico 5. Tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted April 9, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 9, 2013 -TJ- wrote: Seth Lovers are my favourite The answer in HCEG that is the only one that doesn't require any other answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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