Members chris dax Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 this is interesting....the hypocrisy and double standards are breath-taking... Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican. "If they call him the "N' word, that's racial," Mrs. Marriott said. "Just because he's black, everything bad you say about him isn't racial." Interesting choice of "racial" vs "racist". Apparently a black person can never be racist (only racial), while a white person can never not be a racist. I'm longing for the day that a conservative who's skin color is black can be seen as a conservative and not some kind of freak by some black people. That will be some real progress for us as a society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 ....reads article....sits back in amazment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beam Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by chris dax I'm longing for the day that a conservative who's skin color is black can be seen as a conservative and not some kind of freak by some black people. That will be some real progress for us as a society. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 That's astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bonoman Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Reason #411 that makes me glad I left the States... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DerekDRP Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by beam I agree. I agree too. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotblack Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by chris dax I'm longing for the day that a conservative who's skin color is black can be seen as a conservative and not some kind of freak by some black people. That will happen the day that there is a black conservative who isn't a freak. To date, the more prominent black conservatives have left a lot to be desired. Disclaimer: I'm not saying that cookie pelting is appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chris dax Posted November 2, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Hotblack That will happen the day that there is a black conservative who isn't a freak. To date, the more prominent black conservatives have left a lot to be desired. I guess you're referring to "freaks" like Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele and Condi Rice. Sure they may leave a lot to be desired by someone who has a different political/social philosphy. But that does not make them ignorant house niggers as those Maryland dems are refering to Michael Steele. Respect the man for his hard work and achievement and then make a persuasive counter-argument. The name calling and other deplorable antics of his opposition give an insight into the substance (or lack thereof) of their positions. It's a disgraceful display and a sad spectacle to behold. I hope the voters of Maryland will make their decisions on the merits of each candiate's position, and not on the basis of this kind of cheap theatre that lowers the standard of social and political discourse...c-d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 I'm not surprised in the least. My mother's first teaching job was at a high school where the student body was 60 percent black. She entered her new proffession with grand idealistic visions of giving the gift of education and improving young lives. I remember how she would come home frustrated and in tears. Nobody at that school wants to learn, she would say, and the few who desire to work hard and get good grades are harassed and ostracized by the others. They're called "oreos" and even beaten up after school in the parking lot. Needless to say, mom got the hell out of that school at her earliest opportunity (is it any wonder black schools can't keep good teachers?). The stories mom brought home from Washington Union High convinced me that black racism is a bald-faced fact and I haven't seen anything in the past 40 years to change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thelurker Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 That will happen the day that there is a black conservative who isn't a freak. To date, the more prominent black conservatives have left a lot to be desired. So, you think this behavior is okay? What more should they show? Wear hood ornaments? Rap? Poor english? What exactly should they show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotblack Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by thelurker So, you think this behavior is okay?What more should they show? Wear hood ornaments? Rap? Poor english? What exactly should they show? Like I said in the Disclaimer, I don't believe that the behavior is OK. It's not OK. It's wrong. Nevertheless, though they have chosen a poor way to voice their disapproval, it doesn't mean that their disapproval is unjustified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superiorparts Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 we have the same problem here mudbass. you can teach at a private school and have the joy of teaching students but the pay is low. you can teach at a public school for the money and thats it. its a crying shame. i send my child to private school and pay $325.00 a month. that is just tuition. if i sent her to the public schools around here i would fear for her everyday. i am trying to get away from here and will one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted November 2, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Hotblack ...though they have chosen a poor way to voice their disapproval, it doesn't mean that their disapproval is unjustified. I don't think anyone thus far has tried to say their dissaproval is unjustified. It's the act that is at issue here, and the incredible hypocrisy or double standard of racism they practice. It's bad enough the country barely has two political parties. The black population only has one, and seems blind to the fact that this party has {censored}ed them over from the first day they finally achieved the right to vote. What will it take to change this? How many good potential conservative black candidates have never stepped forward for fear of this type of reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Banta Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Hotblack That will happen the day that there is a black conservative who isn't a freak. To date, the more prominent black conservatives have left a lot to be desired.Disclaimer: I'm not saying that cookie pelting is appropriate. -1Alan Keyes was the best presidential candidate of the last 20 years. The prominent black "liberals" are all crazy. (As are the whites.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members niomosy Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Banta -1 Alan Keyes was the best presidential candidate of the last 20 years. The prominent black "liberals" are all crazy. (As are the whites.) So are the neo-cons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bluesman0511 Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Banta -1Alan Keyes was the best presidential candidate of the last 20 years. The prominent black "liberals" are all crazy. (As are the whites.) {censored} you, too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted November 2, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Bluesman0511 {censored} you, too!!! You were a black presidential candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Banta Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Craigv You were a black presidential candidate? It's Jesse Jackson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted November 2, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Banta It's Jesse Jackson! We do seem to attract the coolest people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkee1 Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 I haven't read the article, but don't have to. This is an appalling event, and, as a Black American, further shows how little representation we get from either party from politicians of ANY race. Once again, I restate my political opinion: The American system of Government is so flawed that a complete overhaul is necessary. NO one currently holding an office is worthy of the job, and ALL should be replaced.I realize this is not a practical opinion, and will never happen, but I see it as the only fix. NONE of those people represent me. Never have, never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by bassgeek I haven't read the article, but don't have to. This is an appalling event, and, as a Black American, further shows how little representation we get from either party from politicians of ANY race.Once again, I restate my political opinion: The American system of Government is so flawed that a complete overhaul is necessary. NO one currently holding an office is worthy of the job, and ALL should be replaced.I realize this is not a practical opinion, and will never happen, but I see it as the only fix.NONE of those people represent me. Never have, never will. +1 ..Lug for Emperor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by bassgeek NONE of those people represent me. Never have, never will. What kind of representation do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 "We DEMAND equality. NO WE DON'T!!! We DEMAND distinction of SEPARATION!!!" All in one sentence as far as I'm concerned. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted November 2, 2005 CMS Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by bassgeek I haven't read the article, but don't have to. This is an appalling event, and, as a Black American, further shows how little representation we get from either party from politicians of ANY race.Once again, I restate my political opinion: The American system of Government is so flawed that a complete overhaul is necessary. NO one currently holding an office is worthy of the job, and ALL should be replaced.I realize this is not a practical opinion, and will never happen, but I see it as the only fix.NONE of those people represent me. Never have, never will. It's not the system that is so flawed, it is the people in it. To whom are you referring by "we" in your second sentence? "Black American"? Maybe when black Americans begin to look at themselves as simply Americans, some progress can be made. I'm sure there are plenty of "you" who could be great political candidates if "you" would just give them a better chance than those in the article did. The "us" and "them" mentality is so {censored}ing tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkee1 Posted November 2, 2005 Members Share Posted November 2, 2005 Originally posted by Mudbass What kind of representation do you want? I don't know.... maybe someone who is really in office to serve the public, not to further their own agenda. Like I said before, though, this is unrealistic and impractical, and will never happen. I'd like to see elected officials who run on a platform of school reform get in and actually attempt to reform schools. I'd love to see the Family court system revamped so Dads get a more fair say. I'd love to see a politician get in office on a promise to aid the homeless, and see some homeless people find homes.... All of these things are pipe dreams, as long as there is so much red tape clogging up the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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