Members Kaesh Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1157753409179&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/NewsPORTLAND, Ore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 "No charges expected, authorities sayIntruder had long criminal record" i'm innocent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fireball_73 Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Thats impressive. Was she also a black belt in Judo or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Perfessor Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yes, Dear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Today's news has one from Harlem - a guy tried to mug a wheelchair bound 56 year old woman, and she pulled out her licensed .357 and shot him in the arm. She was on her way to the target practice range when he tried to steal the gold chain around her neck. She does not face charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flod Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 This ought to teach them bastards! How much truth is it to all these stories I hear of criminals suing their victims and winning in the US? Like the one with the burglar who got locked upp i the garage? Or the one who hurt himself falling through a window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danthepersonage Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by Flod This ought to teach them bastards! How much truth is it to all these stories I hear of criminals suing their victims and winning in the US? Like the one with the burglar who got locked upp i the garage? Or the one who hurt himself falling through a window? I know, right? I'm moving to Oregon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Crescent Seven Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by Flod This ought to teach them bastards! How much truth is it to all these stories I hear of criminals suing their victims and winning in the US? Like the one with the burglar who got locked upp i the garage? Or the one who hurt himself falling through a window? It can happen, civil cases over here get pretty outrageous, and juries have awarded crooks large sums for {censored} like this. Some lawyer comes in and claims the guy was somehow a victim, and convinces a jury of it. There was a guy here in Denver that blasted an armed burglar in the chest with a shotgun as the guy was trying to come in through a window-mounted AC unit duct. They played the 911 tape on the news and it went like: Guy (calmly)-"yes, I just shot an intruder, I need some assistance" 911-"OK, is he still breathing" Guy (calmly) "Uhh..." (moaning in background) 911-"Do you feel comfortable attempting to resucitate him?" Guy (calmly) "No ma'am" 911-"OK, you can just walk away then" Guy-"Thank you" In some states, you're better off killing them, but you'd better not shoot them outside your house, and if you do, you'd better hope they fall into your house. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cortfan Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Better to be judged by 12, than carried by 8. Good for the nurse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Good for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by Flod This ought to teach them bastards! How much truth is it to all these stories I hear of criminals suing their victims and winning in the US? Very true, unfortunately. That's why if you shoot an intruder in your house it's a good idea to shoot him again. Once to stop him and the second time to stop the lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ec437 Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by Mudbass Very true, unfortunately. That's why if you shoot an intruder in your house it's a good idea to shoot him again. Once to stop him and the second time to stop the lawsuit. Bad idea. You're much better off just being a good shot in the first place. Why? Because if he is no longer a threat to you, yet you shoot him again and kill him, you can (and probably will) now be brought up on manslaughter and/or murder charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by ec437 Bad idea. You're much better off just being a good shot in the first place. Why? Because if he is no longer a threat to you, yet you shoot him again and kill him, you can (and probably will) now be brought up on manslaughter and/or murder charges. I shot him once your Honor and the {censored}er just kept coming. I had to shoot him 8 more times before he'd stop. It's your word against a deadman's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by Mudbass I shot him once your Honor and the {censored}er just kept coming. I had to shoot him 8 more times before he'd stop. It's your word against a deadman's. If you're going to shoot more than once, make it quick, don't delay and think about it. "I panicked and fired several shots in a row without thinking." Less to worry about if you use a 12 gauge loaded with double-aught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syciprider Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Use a side by side shotgun and double him. You shot him twice for good measure but both at the same time:thu: *I'm not serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by syciprider Use a side by side shotgun and double him. You shot him twice for good measure but both at the same time:thu: *I'm not serious Man, she's still straining, no luck yet? Probably trying to get off two loads at once, side by side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldivor Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by syciprider Use a side by side shotgun and double him. You shot him twice for good measure but both at the same time:thu: *I'm not serious side by side 10 gauge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syciprider Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by oldivor side by side 10 gauge Bloody mist instead of gory chunks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldivor Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by syciprider Bloody mist instead of gory chunks? something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Also, make sure of what's behind your target---things like your neighbor's house, kids, etc. You don't want to harm friendlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ec437 Posted September 9, 2006 Members Share Posted September 9, 2006 Originally posted by Mudbass I shot him once your Honor and the {censored}er just kept coming. I had to shoot him 8 more times before he'd stop. It's your word against a deadman's. Actually no, it's your word against the coroner's, the investigator's, and the prosecutor's. If the first shot can be determined to be dehabilitating but not fatal, and the second shot is fatal, you'd better hope that you have a sympathetic judge and/or jury. Like I said, its better to be a good shot the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Originally posted by ec437 Actually no, it's your word against the coroner's, the investigator's, and the prosecutor's. If the first shot can be determined to be dehabilitating but not fatal, and the second shot is fatal, you'd better hope that you have a sympathetic judge and/or jury. Like I said, its better to be a good shot the first time. A "Coup de Gras" shot is one thing, you don't want to "finish them off" unless they are still a threat. But firing multiple times in self-defense is not uncalled for; take a look at how many lone gunmen get pumped full of lead by multiple cops for pointing a gun at just one of them. And to address Thumper's point about knowing what's behind the target, this is a good point, and the reason why a .380 is a much safer home defense gun than, say, a Desert Eagle or .44 Mag. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ace Of Bass Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Man: Help! I just shot someone accidentally?911 Operator: Okay, don't panic.Man: What do I do?911: First, make sure that he really is dead.*Pause, followed by loud gunshot*Man: Okay, now what do I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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