Members poorboy Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Why are folks so concerned with the weight of gear OVER what it sounds like.The guys at the other forum must all have bad backs.It seems that they all would rather have a 20lb Eden and a 5lb1 -12 Neo whatever than something that can rattle walls.I really don't understand it.You'd think all they did at a gig was haul equipment up 6 flights of stairs by themselvesUnbelieveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tylytle Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I hear ya. My cabinet comes in at 225 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phatbassdood Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by poorboy Why are folks so concerned with the weight of gear OVER what it sounds like. The guys at the other forum must all have bad backs. It seems that they all would rather have a 20lb Eden and a 5lb 1 -12 Neo whatever than something that can rattle walls. I really don't understand it. You'd think all they did at a gig was haul equipment up 6 flights of stairs by themselves Unbelieveable. give it a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Why would I bother with 300 lbs of gear when 50 can do the same job ?Weight IS a concern to me. Less bother means better show.As for rattling walls, I'm past that. Getting heard is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syciprider Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well, if you're touring without roadies, moving 80# heads and 150+# cabs gets old after awhile. This tells me that at least for many touring bassists, tone is becoming secondary to convenience. IOW, tone may be overrated after all. But I still like my tubes:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by phatbassdood give it a few years Years have got nothing to do with it. It's the high sissification factor over on that "other" board. I'm a old fart and I'm hauling around a 2x10, a 2x15 a CA9 and I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poorboy Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by Jazz Ad Why would I bother with 300 lbs of gear when 50 can do the same job ? I don't think I believe you.What sounds like my SVT-CL and 810he AND weighs only 50#.Be honest,nothing does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poorboy Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by phatbassdood give it a few years I'm 50 now.How long should I wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by poorboy I don't think I believe you.What sounds like my SVT and 810 AND weighs only 50#.Be honest,nothing does. Maybe I don't want to sound like you ?Now if you're concerned about volume, that's what PAs are for.The 70s are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no-logic Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'm 54 , have a bad back and have had enough of big, bulky and heavy gear. What I use now is compact, lightweight and sounds just as good IMO. But to each their own. Some guys don't mind carting lots of heavy gear. Not me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by Jazz Ad The 70s are over. DAMN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phatbassdood Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by no-logic I'm 54 , have a bad back and have had enough of big, bulky and heavy gear. What I use now is compact, lightweight and sounds just as good IMO. But to each there own. Some guys don't mind carting lots of heavy gear. Not me! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phatbassdood Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by poorboy I'm 50 now.How long should I wait? your back/shoulders etc etc will tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Why haul heavy gear if you don't have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phatbassdood Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by Mudbass Years have got nothing to do with it. It's the high sissification factor over on that "other" board. I'm a old fart and I'm hauling around a 2x10, a 2x15 a CA9 and I like it! if your happy doing it then that's good. I've had trouble with my back before (along with various other body parts) and I don't want to aggravate them. which board are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poorboy Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 It's not the volume but the tone.Nothing I've heard has that full buttery fat tone with gobs of headroom to spare.A few of my friends have the Edens and they just have the umph that I like to hear and feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phatbassdood Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by Thunderbroom Why haul heavy gear if you don't have to? +1 I think the weight of someones gear is inversely proportional to the size of their penis, (if your a bloke) I currently don't have an amp :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syciprider Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by phatbassdood +1 I think the weight of someones gear is inversely proportional to the size of their penis, (if your a bloke) I currently don't have an amp :D Why is it that ppl who have gear/SUV/gun envy always say this? You have a cock fixation huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 If you like your tone and don't mind busting your ass to get it places, then go for it. If you don't wanna bust your ass to get the tone you want then buy lighter stuff. Who the {censored} cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poorboy Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 My whole point is that weight never use to be a factor in amp choice.Sound was the only cosideration.When did it change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members james on bass Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Sound is definitely the most important, but I'm not 20 anymore, and hauling a 125lb cabinet, even a couple times a week puts quite a bad strain on my back. Yes, I'm old and have a herniated L4/L5 disc in my back. As quick as load in and load out goes, that few minutes can lay me up the next day for the whole day. I am considering a smaller cab as much as I love my 8x8. I hope I don't lose much of my fave tone, but health is definitly a consideration as you get older. My .02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by no-logic I'm 54 , have a bad back and have had enough of big, bulky and heavy gear. What I use now is compact, lightweight and sounds just as good IMO. But to each their own. Some guys don't mind carting lots of heavy gear. Not me! {censored}, I'm only 27, I'm relatively strong, and I'm all about less gear weight. Granted, I don't have a lightweight rig, but I'll take the very least amount of gear I need to take to get the job done. I built the Ghettotron for that reason. If I can carry everything I need in one trip, I can get to the beer and loose women much faster. With the PA's they have in the clubs these days, if I don't have to have a full stack on stage, {censored} it, I'm not going to. In fact, I'm thinking about selling my 2x10 because I'm not certain I need it. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by phatbassdood if your happy doing it then that's good. I've had trouble with my back before (along with various other body parts) and I don't want to aggravate them. which board are you referring to? I'm refering to that other board, you know the one, the one with those sissy {censored}ers on it trying to find lighter and lighter gear all the time. But I jest. If I was gigging all the time and moving my {censored} around all the time I'd be looking for smaller and lighter gear too. It's just a hobby for me though and moving a ton of stuff every now and then isn't a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by poorboy When did it change? Why do you care? A pair of 810's sounds the same as a 210 combo through a PA. The crowd could care less what you use on stage. I'm young and have lots of help to move stuff around but I'd still rather not have to lug giant heavy-ass boxes when I don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Originally posted by Thunderbroom Why haul heavy gear if you don't have to? +1. I'm willing to tote a 45 lb tube head and two 50 lb cabs because they give me the sound I want. I'd love to go with an Acoustic Image Clarus or such like, but I like the tone I get from The Pig. Plus, it looks cool. (chucks some '70s arena rock on the CD player...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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