Members T. Alan Smith Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Contrary to popular belief I hold that Van Halen (and GnR for that matter) falls squarely in the hair-metal rack. You are WRONG, sir. GnR DID bridge hair bands & grunge, I'll admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I take issue with the idea that, for the 80s, "Fun Rock" automatically equals "Hair Metal"... For the 80s, I'd rather listen to Talking Heads or the Pixies, both of whom have "fun", goofy songs, and neither of whom come within 1000 miles of Hair metal. And in terms of overall catalog, both bands smoke most Hair Metal groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Captain Fathead Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I take issue with the idea that, for the 80s, "Fun Rock" automatically equals "Hair Metal"...For the 80s, I'd rather listen to Talking Heads or the Pixies, both of whom have "fun", goofy songs, and neither of whom come within 1000 miles of Hair metal. And in terms of overall catalog, both bands smoke most Hair Metal groups. Two great bands. Not even on the same page as hair metal. Where was it said that hair metal equals fun rock??? (Not trying to be combative, i just think i missed something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevilRaysFan Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Two great bands. Not even on the same page as hair metal. Where was it said that hair metal equals fun rock??? (Not trying to be combative, i just think i missed something). Im not sure if you grew up back then, but speaking from a guy who did, the music - like now - is more than the sum of what you listened to....Back in the 80s, hair-bands portrayed an air of mischievious fun - the vibe was always one of a groupie-chasing coke-induced happy party...It was "Nothin but a good time" ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceGhost Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Never really cared for the band but hell, there's room for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Captain Fathead Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Im not sure if you grew up back then, but speaking from a guy who did, the music - like now - is more than the sum of what you listened to....Back in the 80s, hair-bands portrayed an air of mischievious fun - the vibe was always one of a groupie-chasing coke-induced happy party...It was "Nothin but a good time" ..... No, i definitely didn't. I was in Kindergarten in '89. I've read enough about the eighties to understand the mentality of hair metal. I'm just confused as to why the Talking Heads and the Pixies are getting lumped in with the aquanet bands. Only common them I see is the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 The first time I saw the video for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is one of those moments that I'll never forget, and not because it was so earth-shattering that it changed my life. I was 12 years old. After school every day, I had chores to do, and my brother and I would put MTV's Top 10 Countdown while we cleaned. I was scrubbing the toilet to "November Rain", and right after that, "Teen Spirit" came on. My brother goes "Dude, you have to come see this!" We stood there and watched the video and were like ":freak:". My brother was 16, and his comment was "These guys will never be number one on the countdown." Two years later I was wearing flannel, smoking weed, and listening to grunge.I just listened to "Heart Shaped Box" on YouTube, and remembered why I like Nirvana. That song is {censored}ing catchy...C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hair metal was king when I was in high school, so there will always be a soft spot in my heart for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 We stood there and watched the video and were like ":freak:". My brother was 16, and his comment was "These guys will never be number one on the countdown." That's funny. When my friend and I first saw Pearl Jam's "Alive" as a buzz cut (you have no idea how long it took me to remember the term buzz cut, by the way ) and I was listening thinking "Holy {censored} this is {censored}ing amazing" his words were "Wow, these guys are going nowhere" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Captain Fathead Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I'm not "lumping them in", I'm specifically saying they're quite different...That's what the phrase "neither of whom come within 1000 miles of Hair metal" means And it was Fitzwell (followed by some others) who equated "Fun Rock" with hair metal (L-28476251 mentioned White Lion, T.Alan mentioned Bon Jovi, etc.) aha. I think the term "fun rock" is just throwing me for a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Fun Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevilRaysFan Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Fun Rock. That was worth it just to hear the bogus guitar lick at the "Rock Revolution Radio" beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike fitzwell Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 aha. I think the term "fun rock" is just throwing me for a loop. That's just what I call it. Guess you just had to be there to understand. As I said before, I remember it fondly for the experiences I lived through while the stuff was popular probably more than for the music itself. I think each of us has a soundtrack to our childhoods, but what is on that soundtrack differs because of our ages, where we grew up, influences at the time, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike fitzwell Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Im not sure if you grew up back then, but speaking from a guy who did, the music - like now - is more than the sum of what you listened to....Back in the 80s, hair-bands portrayed an air of mischievious fun - the vibe was always one of a groupie-chasing coke-induced happy party...It was "Nothin but a good time" ..... Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L-1329 Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Fun Rock. Hee hee. I'm glad you posted that.Now listen to this one, and pay close attention to the guitar tracks. Vito Bratta is a LEGEND amoung guitarists for a reason. His rhythm playing and writing is right there with EVH, KILLER rhythm chops and parts that are much more complicated than they ever sound. His rhythm tracks made those songs, and all his soloing always fit right into them perfectly. Now, the glam is mostly a joke, but my whole point is to be able to look past all that silliness hear the talent these guys had. Whether someone likes that style of music or not, nobody with even a shred of musical knowledge can deny the skills they have. And besides, some of the most stupid campy lyrics I've ever heard came from John, Paul, George and Ringo. Nothing wrong with fun.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpzaMmm_Vc&mode=related&search=Their best example is Don't Give Up, but I can't find a good link to that song anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hee hee. I'm glad you posted that. Now listen to this one, and pay close attention to the guitar tracks. Vito Bratta is a LEGEND amoung guitarists for a reason. His rhythm playing and writing is right there with EVH, KILLER rhythm chops and parts that are much more complicated than they ever sound. His rhythm tracks made those songs, and all his soloing always fit right into them perfectly. Now, the glam is mostly a joke, but my whole point is to be able to look past all that silliness hear the talent these guys had. Whether someone likes that style of music or not, nobody with even a shred of musical knowledge can deny the skills they have. And besides, some of the most stupid campy lyrics I've ever heard came from John, Paul, George and Ringo. Nothing wrong with fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpzaMmm_Vc&mode=related&search=Their best example is Don't Give Up, but I can't find a good link to that song anywhere... Yeah, I think that guy's a good guitar player too, but man... That singer. I think he practices his moves and faces in the mirror every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 And the answer I forgot to give the first time I responded . . . Because they are tall. duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GRANKOR Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 meh the best band of the 80s was Jane's Addiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members REMUS Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Nirvana like most successful progenitors of a genre will become famous just for starting something, let alone their accomplishments. I think that looking at his work, it isn't technically proficient, far from it, but it is full of purpose and feeling which is why they are so notable that was and still is synonymous with teenage angst that I can still relate to at 22. And of course the meteoric success of the foo fighters has something to do with their status i'm sure.. Kurts death much like Dimebags, unfortunately as much as anything they did in their life times.. has secured their names in music history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anothertxn Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Fun Rock. Wow. Wow. That was so unbelievable awful. Wow. Talent and "feeling," together at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Captain Fathead Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hee hee. I'm glad you posted that. Now listen to this one, and pay close attention to the guitar tracks. Vito Bratta is a LEGEND amoung guitarists for a reason. His rhythm playing and writing is right there with EVH, KILLER rhythm chops and parts that are much more complicated than they ever sound. His rhythm tracks made those songs, and all his soloing always fit right into them perfectly. Now, the glam is mostly a joke, but my whole point is to be able to look past all that silliness hear the talent these guys had. Whether someone likes that style of music or not, nobody with even a shred of musical knowledge can deny the skills they have. And besides, some of the most stupid campy lyrics I've ever heard came from John, Paul, George and Ringo. Nothing wrong with fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpzaMmm_Vc&mode=related&search=Their best example is Don't Give Up, but I can't find a good link to that song anywhere... Wasn't a fan. I hate to generalize, but I think the only band of that genre that I enjoy is G'n'R (and that really doesn't fall into the bubblegum pretty boy rock as much... it feels much more edgy). Here's some stuff I enjoy from the 80's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCoOlUjhlcAnd Kim Deal is prettier than all those hair metal dudes put together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 You want some serious talent in Hair metal. check out some Danger Danger with Andy Timmons on guitar. Guy is a BAD ASS.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRCCP1_09ushis solo stuff now is incredible.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHWnr7Pphxo&mode=related&search=Here's a cool clip of him with Vaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8qU1EoArKY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Wasn't a fan. I hate to generalize, but I think the only band of that genre that I enjoy is G'n'R (and that really doesn't fall into the bubblegum pretty boy rock as much... it feels much more edgy). Here's some stuff I enjoy from the 80's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCoOlUjhlcAnd Kim Deal is prettier than all those hair metal dudes put together I love the Pixies. Good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Also...Dave Grohl wasn't the only one with talent. Back when they had Nevermind out, he was just a stupid monkey banging on the drums. However, he was able to evolve into what he is today...which is very talented. Dave Grohl kicked ass at drums. He had actual parts that most people would just do a simple Boom-Chick line to. He hit hard and had great backing vocals. Without him as a drummer, they wouldn't have been nearly as big, even with Kurt's death. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Subby33 Posted October 19, 2007 Members Share Posted October 19, 2007 Nirvana had an energy and a complete aura that is lacking from a lot of modern bands. Not only was it their music (which was very simple and extremely catchy), it was their whole being. Listening to them now (at 25 years of age) I dont enjoy it as much. But when you were a 12-14 year old angry teenager, who was depressed beyond all belief, then you really undertood. Kind of how like I enjoy Nine Inch Nail's Downward Spiral a lot, but it doesn't mean anywhere as much to me now as I did growing up. They were a great band. Great songs, great singing (he's not perfect, but you can feel it), great bass lines, powerful drumming . . . they were a great band. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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