Members T. Alan Smith Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 While there was certainly a lot of wanking, listen to anything from White Lion and try to say that wasn't masterful guitar work, and excellent writing. There was SO much killer playing in that genre that gets totally overlooked and laughed off because of the image, and I don't think anyone really ever listened to the nuances of the writing, especially the guitar side of it. They only hear the 'image', if that makes any sense. Listen to old David Lee Roth songs with Vai to hear some of the best rhythm guitar based writing ever, and there are tons of other examples. Heck, ever really listen to Winger? That band was tight, and had som great players and recordings. But everyone will laugh them off and never hear or be willing to see that side of them. Even Motley Crue was a tight band as far as writing and playing went, their music has some of the baddest rhythm hooks in all rock, and they could groove. Hearing all the talk of wanking, image, shredding always makes me wonder how much someone has ever really heard when the old 80's bands come up. Those guys could school most all rock bands today on groove, melody, songwriting, rhythm hooks and technique. SCHOOL them! Your referring to the cream of the crop, and of course, I agree with you on their talent. And, your prolly right about the style overshadowing the substance...although the lyrics were often horrid too, which certainly doesn't help with longevity. I don't count Roth as hair band, simply because his roots were VH, which was NOT a hair band! You brought up 'groove' with Crue, and thru the years they've been the only hair band I'd buy music from or go to a show. I've always felt that it was because, unlike other hair bands, they honestly grooved. Hair bands were typically all about the guitar 1st, and vocals(which was great for harmony and melody). You had a lot of real chopsey drummers who could play a million miles an hour but couldn't honestly groove to save their lives. After the polish of the recording techniques wore off, the shortsightedness of rhythm in that genre turned me off. It's interesting how it's flip flopped today(well, since the 90's) in hard rock...how it's all about rhythm today, and it's the same approach to melody(what little there is) and harmony(what little there is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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