Members georgestrings Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Thompson just dropped out of the race. It's too bad, since he was probably the closest to a true conservative. Ron Paul is also very conservative on domestic issues. That makes me sad... but it wasn't unpredictable... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 That makes me sad... but it wasn't unpredictable... - georgestrings He will end up as a running mate for someone most likely. In fact he addressed that before the race began IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 He will end up as a running mate for someone most likely. In fact he addressed that before the race began IIRC. Yup - I'm thinking McCain/Thompson... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EZ3X3 Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yeah, but it shows his lack of patriotism. Also, none of them do what they say they will do, once in office. They just say it to get there. So whats new. Question did u serve in the arm forces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yup - I'm thinking McCain/Thompson... - georgestrings Not me. I think it will be Romney/Thompson. I think ALL of the candidates are really underestimating the immigration issue and how stronly many voters feel about it. Romney Thompson and Paul are really the only candidates to not pander to the Latino community and stand firm on no amnesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Kucinich (sigh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Not me. I think it will be Romney/Thompson. I think ALL of the candidates are really underestimating the immigration issue and how stronly many voters feel about it. Romney Thompson and Paul are really the only candidates to not pander to the Latino community and stand firm on no amnesty. This week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted January 22, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 22, 2008 Not me. I think it will be Romney/Thompson. I think ALL of the candidates are really underestimating the immigration issue and how stronly many voters feel about it.Romney Thompson and Paul are really the only candidates to not pander to the Latino community and stand firm on no amnesty.I agree. Is there any reason to assume that the Republicans will lose the gains they made in the Latino voting previously unless the illegals are voting, too? Why would legal residents be against the tough stance and if they are, how do you think that can be overcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 This week! true. We'll see if he sticks to his guns on that one or not. He would be a fool not to as I think that is where he will garner a LOT of support over McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted January 22, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 22, 2008 This week! Nope. He was really strong on it in the New Hampshire debates, too. It's been at least 2 weeks, lug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I really, really don't like McCain. He authored a large part of McCain/Feingold (obviously) campaign finance reform, he's opposed tax cuts in the past, and he was all gung-ho about the failed amnesty bill. Screw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Banta Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Bad politics aside...Obama can't win simply because of his name.Clinton can't win simply because she's a woman. Thank God. (Not that there's anyone good who can win, either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I agree. Is there any reason to assume that the Republicans will lose the gains they made in the Latino voting previously unless the illegals are voting, too? Why would legal residents be against the tough stance and if they are, how do you think that can be overcome? I believe a lot of illegals vote. Heck, there's probably a lot more voting fraud than we even realize. Here in MN, you can vote if you have another registered vote vouch for you. It's as simply as saying "Yep, Bob lives in this district." There are other places where the rules are even more lax. This is one of the reasons I support having a gov't issued ID to vote. It will help cut down on voter fraud, but of course nothing will eliminate it entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I believe a lot of illegals vote. Heck, there's probably a lot more voting fraud than we even realize. Here in MN, you can vote if you have another registered vote vouch for you. It's as simply as saying "Yep, Bob lives in this district." There are other places where the rules are even more lax. This is one of the reasons I support having a gov't issued ID to vote. It will help cut down on voter fraud, but of course nothing will eliminate it entirely. I agree that there's probably more voting fraud than we even realize, but I doubt it's due to illegals, and I think the voter id business is nothing but a return to Jim Crow laws, may as well bring back the poll tax while you're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soulplane83 Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Ron Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members collinwho Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I personally feel that Fred Thompson would be best for the country - sadly, there isn't a chance of that happening... especially now that he dropped out of the race. . . To answer the original question. I support none of the current candidates. I will support whomever wins for the length of their term, barring major misdeeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I really, really don't like McCain. He authored a large part of McCain/Feingold (obviously) campaign finance reform, he's opposed tax cuts in the past, and he was all gung-ho about the failed amnesty bill. Screw him. Read his WIKI page. You may disagree with him on every issue, but I predict you will respect him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I agree. Is there any reason to assume that the Republicans will lose the gains they made in the Latino voting previously unless the illegals are voting, too? Why would legal residents be against the tough stance and if they are, how do you think that can be overcome? Actually, from a lot of reading I have done on this - it appears to me that the legal latino community is actually split fairly evenly on the issue. Some find it offensive to be targeting mexicans (which is a good 80% of the issue) and others, who worked hard to gain legal status here feel that everyone should do so. And, fact is, the GOP isn't very strong with latino voters anyway, so I don't think it will really be a problem. I don't think it NEEDS to be overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I agree that there's probably more voting fraud than we even realize, but I doubt it's due to illegals, and I think the voter id business is nothing but a return to Jim Crow laws, may as well bring back the poll tax while you're at it. How is a voter ID a return to Jim Crow laws? If you can make it to a polling place, you probably have the wherewithal to go get an ID. There's absolutely no valid comparison between requiring an ID for all voters and legislated racial segregation. As far as voting fraud goes, Minneapolis has some nice stories. One campaign was getting homeless people to cast votes in a local election by giving them money to buy a bottle of breakfast. Go vote, get money to buy booze - easy. No lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I really, really don't like McCain. He authored a large part of McCain/Feingold (obviously) campaign finance reform, he's opposed tax cuts in the past, and he was all gung-ho about the failed amnesty bill. Screw him. I take issue with him on all of those as well... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Read his WIKI page. You may disagree with him on every issue, but I predict you will respect him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain Personally, yes. Politically, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JacieFB Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Clinton can't win simply because she's a woman. I don't know, man. I'm not saying she's a shoe-in, but the Clinton Political Machine plays to win. For good or for awesome, they are good at winning elections. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators ThudMaker Posted January 22, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 22, 2008 And, fact is, the GOP isn't very strong with latino voters anyway, so I don't think it will really be a problem. I don't think it NEEDS to be overcome.It would be nice to make headway with the different minority groups, though. At some point a sizeable percentage of these groups have to see what a bunch of little splinters the Democrat party essentially comprises and that the message isn't all that inclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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