Members zachoff Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 Can't find my old Bassman threads (I can only view 13 pages back for some reason). Anyway, finally practiced with it and I f'ing love it! Even did the bridging thing between the two channels and it sounded even awesomer! Paired with the 2x15, it's plenty loud... My guitar player has a Mesa Dual Rectifier and a 4x10 and he actually had to turn up a bit to keep up with the Bassman's breaking point. Pretty cool! Anyway, I'm wondering about the EQing. Seems like it doesn't EQ like I'm used to and I remember someone saying that "flat" was 10-2-10 or something like that? Can someone shed some light on this for me? Gracias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 try this:http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/ helps see what happens when you tweak controls and component values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 No idea about it but for viewing threads it sounds like your filter is on threads in the last 10 days. Scroll down to the bottom of the main bass forum page and beside the list of usernames you'll see the setting. Change the period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted December 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 No idea about it but for viewing threads it sounds like your filter is on threads in the last 10 days. Scroll down to the bottom of the main bass forum page and beside the list of usernames you'll see the setting. Change the period. Yes, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted December 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 try this: http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/ helps see what happens when you tweak controls and component values. Sweet, I'll check it out at home... Don't really want to d/l that onto my work laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AussieMark Posted December 3, 2009 Members Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anyway, I'm wondering about the EQing. Seems like it doesn't EQ like I'm used to and I remember someone saying that "flat" was 10-2-10 or something like that? Can someone shed some light on this for me? "Flat" is actually 2-10-2. It's a passive tone circuit with boost only, which is why having the mids on 10 is "flat". The tone controls interact with each other in a way that is not immediately intuitive, so if you boost the bass for example, you'll need to tweak the mids and treble controls. Once you've played around with it for a while, you'll get the hang of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renfield Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 "Flat" is actually 2-10-2. It's a passive tone circuit with boost only, which is why having the mids on 10 is "flat". The tone controls interact with each other in a way that is not immediately intuitive, so if you boost the bass for example, you'll need to tweak the mids and treble controls. Once you've played around with it for a while, you'll get the hang of it. I thought a passive circuit could only cut, meaning that it's 10-10-10 for "flat," But the amp was designed with an EQ curve in it, that brought the actual flat tone back to around 2-10-2. I'd think you of all people would know about passive circuits that claim to boost, when it's really impossible, they in fact cut most things off the start, giving the impression of boost from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thrustin Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Oh. Snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 It depends on your definition of flat. For most fender tonestacks, 2-10-0 or 2-10-2 are "the signal is mostly the same as what is coming in" which I consider to be "Flat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AussieMark Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 I thought a passive circuit could only cut, meaning that it's 10-10-10 for "flat," But the amp was designed with an EQ curve in it, that brought the actual flat tone back to around 2-10-2. Yes, my mistake, should have typed "cut" instead of "boost" (wasn't concentrating enough while typing the reply). But, on the Bassman/Showman amps and Alembic preamps, "flat" is definitely 2-10-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingeringam Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 I thought on old Fender stuff "flat" was 0-10-0 I remember a video saying that....Found it @ 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 I thought on old Fender stuff "flat" was 0-10-0 I believe you are correct. If I understand it right, the midrange control on the Fender tone stack is cut only. Therefore anything less than 10 (or all the way up) equals some degree of cut. The bass and treble controls on the other hand are boost only. Therefore anything greater than 0 (or all the way down) equals some degree of boost. Ergo, the only way to get a flat setting out of the Fender tone stack is 0-10-0. This is also why you can't get a screaming midrange tone (aka Marshall) out of a Fender amp. There's no way to boost the midrange higher than the bass and treble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonjohn Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 I thought a passive circuit could only cut, meaning that it's 10-10-10 for "flat," But the amp was designed with an EQ curve in it, that brought the actual flat tone back to around 2-10-2.I'd think you of all people would know about passive circuits that claim to boost, when it's really impossible, they in fact cut most things off the start, giving the impression of boost from there. Bit off the thread topic but just had to sayI found this passive circuit that can boost . But it sucks a lot of vol and needs a make up stage.I use it when I make pedals. It's awesome:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted December 4, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 4, 2009 0-10-0 is the closest you'll get to flat. Download the Duncan Tone Stack Calculator and play with it to observe the interactivity of the controls. When I play my "Fender" I go with 7-7-4 quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Wow, that's funny Kindness. 7/7/4 is very very close to where I run my PB-1 a lot of the time (with a little boost @ 150hz from the parametric). Can't say enough good things about that pre - nice classic fender stack with a fully parametric eq goes a long way for bass. Pretty much all the way. It's a lot easier to get a good sound out of it than my HBP-1 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hah! That's where I like to run my YBA200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renfield Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hah! That's where I like to run my YBA200. Which also has a passive tone stack. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ezstep Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 I remember my old MMHD150. You could hook it up, turn it on, turn the volume up, turn HIGH-MID-LOW to zero, and you got no sound. Nothing. Nada. Since you had cut all frequencies to zero, that is what you got - zero. You had to dial in some number in order to get some sound. Very cool! I seem to remember 2-10-2 as being flat on the Fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted December 4, 2009 Members Share Posted December 4, 2009 Which also has a passive tone stack. Funny that. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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