Members jerrye Posted December 22, 2005 Members Share Posted December 22, 2005 Do you find it helps you sing on pitch, if you, while singing a phrase, you focus more on the pitch/es of the backing music and how the sung notes fit the pitch? This seems akin to focusing on the forest instead of the trees, while singing a phrase. This is opposed to, while singing the phrase, focusing on the individual notes and/or intervals between notes. I understand that conventional wisdom says to preplay a phrase in your mind, but that's before singing the phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted December 22, 2005 Members Share Posted December 22, 2005 I sing more on pitch if I listen closely to the band. The thing to understand with pitch is that you don't really control it, you allow it. It's when you start to control your pitch consciously that you involve the big muscles of your throat and neck and eventually you're gonna hurt yourself. Listen to the band, let your body take care of the pitch for you. ... he said as if he was a vocal expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 23, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 23, 2005 When you drive a car are you paying attention to the steering wheel or the where the edges of the road are? Both I hope. Same thing. If you're having a hard time, try practicing sliding into the pitch while you play a pure keyboard chord. Go sharp, flat, now focus in on the right pitch. Over, under, then hit it. You've got to pay attention to both. Kind of like humming along with your vaccum cleaner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackwatch Posted December 23, 2005 Members Share Posted December 23, 2005 I'm not a vocal expert either but I do know one thing for sure, the more you sing the better you will stay on pitch. If the musles in your throat are well developed you will have a much easier time staying on pitch and singing overall. My 2 cents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted December 24, 2005 Members Share Posted December 24, 2005 If people can sing............really sing it is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerrye Posted December 24, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2005 When you drive a car are you paying attention to the steering wheel or the where the edges of the road are? Both .... Great analogy, I think. And perhaps paying attention more to the backing music than the individual notes would be like paying more attention to the the edges of the road than the steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bonscottvocals Posted December 25, 2005 Members Share Posted December 25, 2005 I pay attention to everything, including the context and message of the song. The same as a guitar solo is not going to be note-for-note every night, you should have similar control over voicing/phrasing of vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dughaze Posted December 26, 2005 Members Share Posted December 26, 2005 Originally posted by Outkaster If people can sing............really sing it is not an issue. Funny you say this, and you have hit a nerve my friend. I am guessing you are scarred from hearing people sing that you think should not and I can relate some to that. I am struggling all the time with whether I should or should not keep the job as lead singer from the amount of yay's and nay's about my singing I hear from people. I play guitar very well and I have started singing lead kind of because of all the problems I've had to deal with with people that can sing well. Sometimes I think we should go around and ask a person to sing and if they sing pretty well just go ahead and shoot them because they are the most difficult people to deal with in my opinion and by your comment you may well be one of those people. As I become better at singing I hope I can mend the wounds among musicians good singers usually cause. End of rant. My answer to the original poster's question is the singing, like all the instruments in the band need to all be striving to being in pitch with each other. The voice is just another instrument. This even aplies to the drums as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Immy Posted December 31, 2005 Members Share Posted December 31, 2005 The best thing our band ever did was to start making recordings of every gig. I record out of the mains into a DAT unit and then I transfer to the computer and make all band members their own CD of every gig! The mix isn't exactly perfect but I pan the 2 guitars/keys hard left & right for separation. We have 4 part hamonies at times as well. Without having to "tell" other band members that they sing flat, sharp, bad, good...the CDs tell it all to everyone! It's made a big difference for our band and myself! Vocals, timing, notes etc. Now I started to do the same idea but with video as well onto DVD! "Stage presence"! Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SanDiego333 Posted December 31, 2005 Members Share Posted December 31, 2005 Lots of good advice here. Particularly...the voice is just another instrument and...record,record, record, and listen to the playbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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