Members madball24 Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Question is the aux gain the knobs all the way to the right near the effects? Which should i have turned up more? The ones near there or the auxes on the channel strip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jwlussow Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 I usually start with the masters about 12:00 TO 2:00. I do most of my adjustments at the individual channels strips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Time to read the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted November 23, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 And some reading on gain staging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rbts Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 What you are asking is really important... but understanding the answer to your question is more important than getting the answer to your question. The answer though is probably "well, it depends". You can turn it up at either location though of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike M Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 A few years ago, I subcontracted a local (well respected) regional sound tech to cover the beginning of a festival (first two acts) for me (as sound provider) as I had a previously booked gig with my trio. I used my newly acquired Mixwiz as a foh desk with three mon mixes off of the same board. Upon my return, the Aux pots on the right were turned all the way to the right (at maximum) and the individual channel aux pots were set to taste. The mix was great, both foh and mons. I have not touched the aux pots (on the right side of the board) since that date and mix with them "wide open". I have not noticed any ill effects of using the aux's this way. Mike M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 d) since that date and mix with them "wide open".I have not noticed any ill effects of using the aux's this way.Mike M Other than possible signal to noise penalty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted November 24, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah that's the concept the OP should hopefully learn through this...that these two relative control settings affect s/n ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike M Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Other than possible signal to noise penalty... I have not had any gain-structure issues in my monitors with the aux's set as I posted. Mike M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 The auxes at max would be +6dB above unity. This may or may not be a problem with noise doing this. If you were to use a mackie with +20dB you'd hear some noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have not had any gain-structure issues in my monitors with the aux's set as I posted.Mike M Which may or may not be a problem depending on your amp's loop gain and you own noise threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnnyGraphic Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Unity on the master aux is at the 3:00 position. I personally have the masters at 3:00 and use the channel strip aux sends to taste and don't have any issues. But, that's just me. Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyP Posted November 26, 2009 Members Share Posted November 26, 2009 Running the masters at full is great until someone says "my mix is perfect, just turn it up a little bit". The options are: Pretend to turn the master up and hope s/he buys it. Turn up every channel that's in that mix, and deal with the person asking for multiple changes for the rest of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted November 26, 2009 Members Share Posted November 26, 2009 Running the masters at full is great until someone says "my mix is perfect, just turn it up a little bit". The options are:Pretend to turn the master up and hope s/he buys it.Turn up every channel that's in that mix, and deal with the person asking for multiple changes for the rest of the night. Or... mess up your gain structure and S/N by trying to add gain after the board. It could also mean a walk to the monitor rack. FWIW, I keep mine just around three o'clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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