Members agedhorse Posted January 7, 2012 Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 Sometimes, things seem simple on first look but less simple the more you look at it. Same way with specifications, which is why understanding what they really mean seems simple on the surface but is not so simple the more understand them. This is a simple math problem from Baker Lee's FOH column last month... maybe some of you would like to attempt to explain it. You will find that explaining it is probably harder than spolving it. Three guys are traveling together, and they stop at a hotel to spend the night. To save money, they decide to rent only one room, and they ask the hotel clerk what the price of I the room is for the night. Upon learning that the room is $30 for the night, they each chip in $10 and head for the room. A little while later, the hotel clerk realizes that the room only rents for $25 a night, so he takes the $5 and hops in the elevator, intent upon refunding $5 to the three travelers. On the way to the room, the clerk decides to make a little money off the deal, and he pockets $2 of the $5 overpayment. He knocks on the door and tells the voyagers of the $3 overpayment and gives them each back one dollar. The three men take the money without question, and are thrilled that they now have each only paid $9 instead of $10 for the room. But it appears that there is a missing dollar. If each guy only paid $9 for the room, then the total cost of the room is $27. Add this to the $2 pocketed by the hotel clerk, and the total is $29. What happened to the extra dollar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted January 7, 2012 Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 The $2. pocketed by the clerk, should be deducted from the $27,,,, not added. clerk gets $2. hotel gets $25. Room cost the guests,$27. The only thing added here,,, should be the clerks' tension and guilt,,, as he wonders if the guests will thank the front desk for the great $27, rate, when they check-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 7, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 The $2. pocketed by the clerk, should be deducted from the $27,,,, not added. clerk gets $2. hotel gets $25. Room cost the guests,$27. The only thing added here,,, should be the clerks' tension and guilt,,, as he wonders if the guests will thank the front desk for the great $25, rate, when they check-out. Exactly right. But the explaination in the word problem sounds plausable too, until you do the math using the proper reference point which is 25 not 30, and the proper sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted January 7, 2012 Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 "Oooo Eeeee,, this boy sure kin cypher,,,cain't he?" - Jed Clampett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted January 7, 2012 Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 Now imagine this,,, the manager spots the clerks' mis-deed, then tells the clerk to refund the guests equally. He gives them each $1.67 (total $2.01) The manager then fires him,,, he's in the hole by $0.01, and if I give him a penny for his thoughts,,, he breaks even,,,,,,,,,or,, does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vinny D Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 I don't care, I am still paying for a room so I can be by myself!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 8, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 Does the room come with adult entertainment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trevcda Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 Being a modest man, when I checked into my hotel on a recent trip, I said to the lady at the registration desk, "I hope the porn channel in my room is disabled." To which she replied, "No, it's regular people-porn, you sick bastard. Blatantly plagerized from another thread elsewhere in this forum 'cause it seemed perfect here http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2861872-workin-the-crowd&p=44766955&viewfull=1#post44766955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah, the clerk's tip comes from the $27 that the men paid for the room. They paid $25 for the room, gave the clerk a $2 "tip", and got a $3 discount on the room price. 25 + 2 + 3 = $30 Being a modest man, when I checked into my hotel on a recent trip, I said to the lady at the registration desk, "I hope the porn channel in my room is disabled." To which she replied, "No, it's regular people-porn, you sick bastard. A friend of mine is up for a DUI charge, and is not the brightest man I know. At the end of his trial, the judge says "I'll give you the choice; $300 or 30 days in jail." Buddy pauses and thinks about it for a moment, then says with utmost conviction... "I'll take the MONEY!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 Being a modest man, when I checked into my hotel on a recent trip, I said to the lady at the registration desk, "I hope the porn channel in my room is disabled." To which she replied, "No, it's regular people-porn, you sick bastard. Blatantly plagerized from another thread elsewhere in this forum 'cause it seemed perfect herehttp://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2861872-workin-the-crowd&p=44766955&viewfull=1#post44766955 I can't wait to use some of them at my gig next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 8, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Telecruiser Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 [video=youtube;rLprXHbn19I] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loco_p_man Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 My favourite is in Catch 22 when Milo Minderbinder explains how he buys eggs at 7c each and sells them at 5c each and makes an outrageous profit ! See the chapter called "Milo the Mayor" or check the web for how it works ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 I just take it from the top: The customers paid $27 for their room when it was all said and done. The clerk pocketed $2. The establishment got $25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madjack Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 I used to use this problem to illustrate the order of operations in arithmetic. The problem has one subtracting before multiplying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6Imzadi Posted January 8, 2012 Members Share Posted January 8, 2012 I want to know where is the world you can get a room for $25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lifeloverwg Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 I want to know where is the world you can get a room for $25. This!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 This is a very simple math problem given to me in elementary school, 6th grade if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6Imzadi Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 Pi R square. Cake R round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carlstretch Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 The other dollar went to Uncle Sam. You forgot about the "Word Problem That We Can't Figure Out" tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 Pi R square. Cake R round. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mutha Goose Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 This was presented to my son's 9th grade pre-Algebra class (3 year's ago). Its a good problem that forces you to think through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axisplayer Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 And then after the math comes communicating to others, so "Interetsing Math Problem" probably should be "Interesting Math Problem." Answers alone are not enough.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted January 9, 2012 Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 And then after the math comes communicating to others, so "Interetsing Math Problem" probably should be "Interesting Math Problem." Answers alone are not enough.... ;-) I thought I was the only one who noticed that. I kept thinking: in-tourette's-ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2012 I never said my typing was all that accurate in the dark (and it's not edit-able) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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