Members Ryan. Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 Audiopile 300c (pair) or AKG C214 Full 4 piece band, practicing at far too loud volumes. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 What are you trying do achieve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Full 4 piece band, practicing at far too loud volumes. Thanks! If the band is too loud already, what is the purpose of the mics? Oops, AH beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Audiopile 300c (pair) or AKG C214 Full 4 piece band, practicing at far too loud volumes. Thanks! yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Just trying to pick up all sounds as best as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sharnrock Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Is this for recording jam sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I prefer omnidirectional mics for that - these are relatively cheap:http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=390-801 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sharnrock Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Those mics seem a little excessive if you're just recording a room. I'd just grab whatever mic you have lying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I prefer omnidirectional mics for that - these are relatively cheap:http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=390-801 Wow..........rebranded Behringers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 shure sm76 would be good. not a great mic but a good room recording jam session mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members basschaplain Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I use an SM58 on the other side of the room. Works well enough for practice recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 The reason I asked about these two choices is because these are the mics I had on hand. I went with the 300cs. They worked well but I had everything too loud so it clipped. To give you an idea of what I'm doing is I am filming with a Nikon D5100 using the audio in on the camera. I've run the 300cs into two channels on my MixWiz and then use aux outs 1 and 2 into the 8th inch jack on the camera. So far, I've got decent results, but tonight things were too loud and it clipped the whole time. There is no way to monitor if everything is too loud until I get home and can watch the results which is a bummer. Anyway... that is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NUSound Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 The reason I asked about these two choices is because these are the mics I had on hand. I went with the 300cs. They worked well but I had everything too loud so it clipped. To give you an idea of what I'm doing is I am filming with a Nikon D5100 using the audio in on the camera. I've run the 300cs into two channels on my MixWiz and then use aux outs 1 and 2 into the 8th inch jack on the camera. So far, I've got decent results, but tonight things were too loud and it clipped the whole time. There is no way to monitor if everything is too loud until I get home and can watch the results which is a bummer. Anyway... that is that. You just answered your own question... try 'em both, see what you like. We have no "right" way to do this. As for the clipping... just turn down the gain... who cares if it's just a rehearsal track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 pad the mics, they have it built in. get in the habit of doing this for loud sources anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 The input on the D5100 is probably mic level. You'll need some sort of pad (-40dB) to go between the mixer's line outs and the camera's mic input. Unless of course it's actually a line input, or there's an option to change the input sensitivity in the camera's menus. Failing all else, you could just turn down output level of the mixwiz until it stops clipping the camera, but at that point the noise floor will be unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Good call guys. The 300cs do have a pad built in so I think I can take them down -20db. I'll give that a shot next time I'm there. Thanks for all the tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I'll bet you are putting a line level signal into a mic level input on your camera. Do you have a line level option??? Isthere real metering on the camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scarecrowbob Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I'll bet you are putting a line level signal into a mic level input on your camera. Do you have a line level option??? Isthere real metering on the camera? Indeed, it is most likely the camera overloading. It's a DSLR-- so who knows about: input level, metering, impedance? These are all afterthoughts on the camera. You just have to test... get some headphones, record a little and play it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I'll bet you are putting a line level signal into a mic level input on your camera. Do you have a line level option??? Isthere real metering on the camera? No metering. No line level option. Its just an input. Padding the mics is the best start right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 Brings up a thought I had, has anyone tried an IEM receiver as an input to a consumer camcorder with a stereo in plug? If so, how did it work? I have thought of trying this with an x-y of a pair of ldc's at the mix position, and getting a consistent signal with a moving camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted March 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 13, 2012 Careful, video is loud and clips. Turn down speakers and pull out earphones. [video=youtube;TSDnM3jKhDQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSDnM3jKhDQ&feature=player_embedded So this is what I've got so far. Wish I could test it at the room and know where I was at. This is with the 300cs padded -20db. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted March 13, 2012 Members Share Posted March 13, 2012 Brings up a thought I had, has anyone tried an IEM receiver as an input to a consumer camcorder with a stereo in plug? If so, how did it work? I have thought of trying this with an x-y of a pair of ldc's at the mix position, and getting a consistent signal with a moving camera. IEM receivers tend to be a bit on the hissy side and otherwise not "HiFi". They do make wireless mics for camcorder use. I usually use two and just set one up at FOH for a static shot and use that audio instead of the audio from the moving camera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DBR Posted March 13, 2012 Members Share Posted March 13, 2012 Omnidirectional mics or mic everything and utilized the AB Line Out of the MixWiz. This always sounds better. I tried the mic across the room thing, the recordings were, for the most part, unlistenable. Depends on the quality of mics you use I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 13, 2012 Members Share Posted March 13, 2012 IEM receivers tend to be a bit on the hissy side and otherwise not "HiFi". They do make wireless mics for camcorder use. I usually use two and just set one up at FOH for a static shot and use that audio instead of the audio from the moving camera... Not if they are good quality. Maybe with the ones you have experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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