Members soundman11 Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 my church is doing a christmas performance and i need some help on were to put the mics. i have 2 rode shotgun compressor mics 4 clip on instrument mics and the rest are regular mics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 mics for what? recording? amplification? broadcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundman11 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I don't have the list of instroments yet.it's a live profomance probobly 25-30 instroments they will be on the stage ocrous from the choir. the choir is about 30-35 poeple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 you dont need to indy mic an orchestra. coincident pair is excellent choice for broadcast and recording. live sound is a different beast, and a spaced flown array may be best. keep the number of mics to a minimum. start with two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Really depends on lot of factors, but the fact that you're asking here means you should probably hire a professional. Many indoor spaces don't require you to mic the orchestra. We do sound for five of the local orchestras. The only time we're called upon to do so is if they're playing outdoors, in an arena, or along with an amplified group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Originally Posted by Special J Really depends on lot of factors, but the fact that you're asking here means you should probably hire a professional. Many indoor spaces don't require you to mic the orchestra. We do sound for five of the local orchestras. The only time we're called upon to do so is if they're playing outdoors, in an arena, or along with an amplified group. yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 In a nutshell.............mic what can't be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Do you know how the two groups will be configured and situated? I'll also echo the sentiment that less is more. When I deal with similar situations I try to use two, maybe four mics tops. Usually some SDC mics like the AT4041 or equivalent.Are you sure you mean Rode Shotgun Compressor mic? Or do you mean condenser? Might be worth your while to list makes and models of all mics, and where they will be in relation to your Front of House speakers. Perhaps there might be more suggestions, besides the the possible suggestion of head for the hills and don't look back BTW, have you done something like this before, or are you the sacrificial lamb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundman11 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Originally Posted by Shaster Do you know how the two groups will be configured and situated? I'll also echo the sentiment that less is more. When I deal with similar situations I try to use two, maybe four mics tops. Usually some SDC mics like the AT4041 or equivalent.Are you sure you mean Rode Shotgun Compressor mic? Or do you mean condenser? Might be worth your while to list makes and models of all mics, and where they will be in relation to your Front of House speakers. Perhaps there might be more suggestions, besides the the possible suggestion of head for the hills and don't look back BTW, have you done something like this before, or are you the sacrificial lamb? yes i did mean condenser. yes i have done this be for but i did not go to school for sound engineering i just picked it up by watching pros do it. this will be the second year i have done this i just want it to sound right. last year i put a mic on almost every instrument we had except if they were in groups and from what i have read that is to many mics. i can have a list of all the mics i used and can use tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 A lot of good advice here already. The shotguns probably won't be that useful. Otherwise......."Less is more". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike M Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 I have provided sound for chorus with orchestra accompaniment in church settings. My advise: do not mic the orch....however, you will need to mic the chorus I use Shure MX202B mics (three of them) for choir mic'ing with two Senn 835 mics for soloists. (not high-end gear, but I keep getting hired back year after year....) Orchestra's can be damn loud in church settings....expecially if it is a large old church (stone/wood). If you feel a need to mic the Orch. for an indoor performance I would start with one mic on each side of the conductor (above his head). This way you will amplify what the conductor hears... Mike M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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