Members garrigus Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 I'm going to push my luck and ask where I can find a good tutorial on mastering: Check out this book: * Mastering Audio: The Art and the Sciencehttp://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/newsinfo.asp?NewsID=3071 Scott --Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free Cakewalk Loops Drumatic drum loops collection, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free WWF Slam Cam digital camera, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Columbian Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 There are actually a couple ways you can do that. If you want to extract a "groove" from audio and apply it to audio, AudioSnap will do the job. If you want to apply a groove from an audio clip and apply it to MIDI, there's a feature for creating "groove templates" that can become part of your quantization options.this sounds like it's what I'm looking for. But I can't fine "Groove Template" in the help file. where do i read about this?Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Columbian Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 Thanks scott. I will. do you know if it covers setting studio subwoofer level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garrigus Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 Thanks scott. I will. do you know if it covers setting studio subwoofer level? Yes, it has an entire chapter on monitor calibration including the subwoofer. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free Cakewalk Loops Drumatic drum loops collection, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free WWF Slam Cam digital camera, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rcorujo Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Hi Craig, Merry Christmas. Thanks for recommending Antares AVOX for vocal processing. I went to their web site and it looks exactly like what I need. For a price of around $500 it seems well worth it. However, the System Requirements say "Windows XP". I have Windows Vista and was wondering whether they mean that "Windows XP" is the minimum requirement or whether it will ONLY work on "Windows XP". Does anyone know if this software will work properly with Windows Vista? Thank you. Rigoberto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Does anyone know if this software will work properly with Windows Vista? I suggest you contact Anatares as that sort of thing is always subject to change without notice I would think the answer is yes, but you had best contact them for the definitive response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 There are actually a couple ways you can do that. If you want to extract a "groove" from audio and apply it to audio, AudioSnap will do the job. If you want to apply a groove from an audio clip and apply it to MIDI, there's a feature for creating "groove templates" that can become part of your quantization options.this sounds like it's what I'm looking for. But I can't fine "Groove Template" in the help file. where do i read about this?Thanks again Sorry, look under "groove Quantize." Do a search in the help file under quantize, and you'll see groove quantize in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Columbian Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 I swear, I have more trouble finding stuff in the Sonar Help files... But I aint gonna complain. with your recommendation, I dug and dug and finally found what I've been looking for--a tan, long-legged, blond....no, wait. Wrong forum. sorry. I found our how to put those audio snap markers into a clip, push them around so they line up with the hits, and then save the clip (or whatever really gets saved...?) as a groove template. Zingo! I put up a bernard Purdie loop I got a while ago, did all the snapping etc, then played a simple bass line with it--Pretty sloppy and sounding like crap. But when I quantized it to the groove I'd sucked off the Purdie groove, it put the bass notes RIGHT on top of the drum hits and it sounded like a hot, tight rhythm section. Used to be, I'd have to show both tracks in the piano roll and push notes around one at a time. BIG pita. this is great. It's a little tedious making and saving the groove, but man, does it save time and make good music on the back side. thanks again for pointing me right. One thing still eludes me big time: what exactly is the "pool"? and where is it? and how big is it? and what all is in it, and how long does it stay there? Can I get an infection from it? It almost sounds like the regular clipboard, but Cakewalk wouldn't make up a new name for something, just to confuse us. Would it? anyway, thanks again. Merry Christmas. Happy new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 One thing still eludes me big time: what exactly is the "pool"? and where is it? and how big is it? and what all is in it, and how long does it stay there? Can I get an infection from it?It almost sounds like the regular clipboard, but Cakewalk wouldn't make up a new name for something, just to confuse us. Would it? Actually you can think of the "pool" as a pool of transients. I think (not sure, though, so don't quote me) that Cubase also uses this term for a collection of audio clips. It might be a situation where Cakewalk choose the closest existing term rather than invent a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 FYI - I've been editing a classical harpsichord album, working at 96kHz/24-bit with the 64-bit Sonar engine. I must say Sonar 7 has not crashed once, and in terms of putting together pieces of different performances to create a composite performance, the auto crossfades and markers have been great. I've also used the LP EQ to get rid of a nasty "bump" at 50Hz caused by (it seems) resonances within the body of the harpsichord. This is my second major project since upgrading to Sonar 7, and it's been a real workhorse. I also came up with a nice color scheme I might post here when it's complete...it uses lots of blues and grays, with the intention of being as easy on the eyes as possible over long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rcorujo Posted December 27, 2007 Members Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hello, I wrote a song that I would like to be sung in a particular key but since I'm not that great a singer and can't hit those high notes, I sound like Peter Brady singing "When it's time to change". I was thinking about transposing my MIDI notes to a lower key and slowing down the tempo and then increasing the tempo after the vocals have been recorded to get them to a higher key. However, speeding up the tempo only speeds up the MIDI part but not the audio part. Does SONAR 7 have any options that will help me with what I want to accomplish? Thank you. Rigoberto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 27, 2007 You can use V-Vocal to change the pitch of your voice. There are also pitch-stretching algorithms, but V-Vocal is optimized for voice. For example, I've used it to generate a harmony from a lead vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rcorujo Posted December 27, 2007 Members Share Posted December 27, 2007 Thanks Craig, I had fooled around with V-Vocal but it made the voice sound kinda robotic. Perhaps I just didn't know what I was doing. I'll take a look at the V-Vocal videos on youtube and see if I can figure out where I'm going wrong. Rigoberto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 28, 2007 Check the formant options. The natural tendency of any pitch transposing software is to sound robotic, so you need to work on it to make it sound natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 804Jazz Posted December 29, 2007 Members Share Posted December 29, 2007 Maybe u covered this earlier; if so please forgive me for asking again.. What virtual instruments other than those included with Sonar 7 are known to have GOOD x64 compatibility and drivers? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 When running Vista-64, I mostly use what comes with Sonar although I do know that GigaStudio 4 works well in a true 64-bit environment. Can anyone else chime in with an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul G Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Sonar added a convolution reverb in Sonar 6. It's a very worthwhile addition, I believe it's based on the Voxengo reverb.It was Sonar 5. I remember because I had just bought Pristine Space Lt from Voxengo before I upgraded. I really appreciate this review, Craig. What's your take on the File Versioning feature? Thanks.Paul:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members regular guy Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 When running Vista-64, I mostly use what comes with Sonar although I do know that GigaStudio 4 works well in a true 64-bit environment. Can anyone else chime in with an answer? So it will work with Vista? At last something that works on Vista!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 804Jazz Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Craig another question... What else can I do to optmize the new laptop... would a 7200 rpm internal drive give significant better performance over the 5400 Serial ATA drive that came with the HP Laptop??? My system is an HP DV6000 series AMD TL-64 2.2ghz running Vista Ultimate 64bit (1 week old) Sonar 7 Producer 64 bit install.. I'm switching the SODIMMS from 2 1-GIG DIMMS to 2 2GIG DIMMS this week. Which will take it to 4 - GIGs which I think is max for the motherboard? If there is anyway to step up higher than 4GIGs I'd like to know... The question again is: Should I upgrade the HD to a 7200 rpm HD? I have a 320 gig Freeagent that I can use as an external. I also saw a pcexpress card with 2 firewire 800 ports... Should I consider getting the PC express Firewire 800 and hooking up a superfast Firewire 800 drive. I am eventually hoping to move totally away from the three Dell desktops that I've used the last few years to make my latest CD's. I've been telling people that with the power of the new dual core laptops the day of the desktop's demise is soon at hand.... Am I crazy? I'm running SONAR 7 in 64 bit mode but have not really stressed it yet until I upgrade from 2gig Ram to 4gig.... Tell me what you recommend to maximize this Laptop configuration... Anyone else who can help me take this Laptop to the next level I would love to hear from you also.... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 So it will work with Vista? At last something that works on Vista!!! Sonar 7 works really well with 64-bit Vista. Once I got suitable 64-bit drivers (for the PreSonus FireBox), it was smooth sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Craig another question... What else can I do to optmize the new laptop... would a 7200 rpm internal drive give significant better performance over the 5400 Serial ATA drive that came with the HP Laptop??? I think you'll find the extra memory makes a huge difference. Are you running XP or Vista 32-bit or Vista-64? I believe there are issues with trying to address more than 2GB of RAM with a 32-bit OS but I'll let the computer experts weigh in on that. I know there's some kind of mod that allows the OS to see over 3GB of RAM, however the memory limitation of 32-bit addressing is one of the main reasons that operating systems have evolved to 64 bits. As to the hard drive, it all depends on which program you use, how many tracks you need to stream, do you plan to use samplers that stream long samples from a hard drive, etc. 5400 is on the low end of the scale for disk performance, you'd be better off with a 7200 RPM internal drive or even a fast external drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garrigus Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Windows 32-bit can address up to 4GB, but each application run can only address up to 2GB unless you apply the /3GB switch. It's really not necessary though unless you're running some memory hungry soft samplers... even then you probably won't need it because most samplers do disk streaming now. You probably don't need to replace the internal drive, but a fast external drive is definitely necessary for storing your project files and audio data separate from Windows and Sonar. Scott --Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free Cakewalk Loops Drumatic drum loops collection, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free WWF Slam Cam digital camera, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garrigus Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Yep, most of the plug-ins will run under Vista (unless there are compatibility issues), but they will run as 32-bit apps. You need apps that are specifically written for 64-bit to run as 64-bit in XP64 or Vista64. Unfortunately, there aren't many out there yet. East West is coming on strong in this area though with their new Play libraries, which have been optimized for 64-bit... EastWest PLAY Products: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/bloginfo.asp?ID=674 Scott --Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free Cakewalk Loops Drumatic drum loops collection, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free WWF Slam Cam digital camera, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members awinn002 Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 can someone please explain to me the differences with the audiosnap feature between the studio edition and the producer edition. I am aware that both versions have the audiosnap feature but the producer edition has other options not available on the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 804Jazz Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Thanks Scott and Craig... I'm running Vista Ultimate x64.. I do need plug in FXs probably more than Soft Synths... Scott you say the 4 gig won't give me alot of improvement? Did you say External 7200 drive or a firewire 800 drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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