Members Elliott Damage Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I'm getting more into subtle these days. a little trem, maybe some vibe, delay etc. nothing too over the top. I don't even like high gain anymore! I must be getting old!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAtomicJeff Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Elliott Damage I don't even like high gain anymore! *shudders* I'm older than you but I still gotta have my doses of gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coach Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I like having a guitar sounding like a guitar for the most part. For "sounds" I prefer to use other instruments. So mark me for "subtle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted October 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by TheAtomicJeff *shudders* I'm older than you but I still gotta have my doses of gain. better slow down there old man!!!! :D kidding! kidding!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JustinThyme Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Either way is valid. I generally lean toward subtle myself, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mumford Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I'm in between. For me, it has to be integral to the sound, not something I tacked on. Well, except when I'm feeling jaunty. I loves me some sample and hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaSkip Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Subtle for me, but I've been known to get crunchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Shankly Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Depends. In my electronic/noise stuff its generally based on fx. In rock type bands though I tend to stack subtle fx and only go over the top for a cool transition or outros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 depends on the song. usually I go for subtle (especially with OD and phase), but sometimes an OTT heavy trem, loads of fuzz or a chewy env filter can make a guitar part really shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Instead of just answering your question (I'm in the "whatever's appropriate for the song / arrangement" camp), may I instead make a suggestion? How about people listing songs that are good examples of over the top, or subtle effects use? Here's one for starters - The Smiths - "How Soon Is Now?". Over the top, but brilliant IMO. Johnny Marr definitely doesn't suck. How about Tommy James & The Shondells "Crimson And Clover"? Again, pretty over the top, but brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FuzzDiln Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I would like to say both. But I'm definitely more prone to use over the top sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 I play in a trio so I can't get too over the top, it just becomes noise (I know some people are into noise, I'm not). Though I'm thinking of get another guitarist, in which case I might be able to get away with a some weirder sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe Instead of just answering your question (I'm in the "whatever's appropriate for the song / arrangement" camp), may I instead make a suggestion? How about people listing songs that are good examples of over the top, or subtle effects use? Here's one for starters - The Smiths - "How Soon Is Now?". Over the top, but brilliant IMO. Johnny Marr definitely doesn't suck. How about Tommy James & The Shondells "Crimson And Clover"? Again, pretty over the top, but brilliant. Phil's making this the over the top tremolo appreciation thread!i'll mention Explosions in the Sky. not a lot of fx, mostly just delay. but they use it effectively as subtle atmospherics or over the top washes.me myself, i'm pretty split personality. it's either all very subtle traditional guitar sounds OR wacked out tones that barely sound like a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightysasquatch Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Coach I like having a guitar sounding like a guitar for the most part. For "sounds" I prefer to use other instruments.So mark me for "subtle" I feel the exact same way, well put. Nowadays I am playing guitar > modded DRRI, so the only effects I use is a lot of reverb and a little tremolo from the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Narcosynthesis Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Playing to a crowd of non musicians, subtle is comepltely lost on them, they won't notice any subtle hints of chorus in the background If I use an effect, it is as an effect, so a fairly obvious trem or distortion or so on, make it stand out and be a part of the sing having said that, I don't really use too much effects when playing, but thats the route I would be going David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fearofnightmare Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 theSTART are a good example of waaay over the top effects. Jaime's running like 40 boxes all the time, but it always seems to fit. A good example of a band that could have insane effects, but doesn't is TV on the Radio. It's either fuzz, OD, or maybe some delay, and it's all tasteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members losergeek Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 over the top effects mixed low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murch33 Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 The more I age (and I'm not even out of my 20's yet), the more I realize that all I really need is delay and reverb. I'll screw around with lots of different modulations, and then find myself enjoying just the straight sound of guitar -> amp more than anything. The most "over the top" I get is when I have a really lush, deep reverb and then use a volume pedal to make a sort of pad-like effect. I think the biggest thing for me is "songwriting > effects". Too much freaky modulation and I can't hear the notes I'm playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 An example of subtle effects, brilliantly done: The Leslie on Badge. Or the Leslie on the descending arpeggios at the end of "You Never Give Me Your Money". Most people probably don't realize it's got an "effect" on it, but pull it off and it would totally change the sound and feel of the parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe An example of subtle effects, brilliantly done: The Leslie on Badge. Or the Leslie on the descending arpeggios at the end of "You Never Give Me Your Money". Most people probably don't realize it's got an "effect" on it, but pull it off and it would totally change the sound and feel of the parts. Ahh...what do YOU know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 subtle for all types of modulation. subtle & inyourface for dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horchata Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Really depends on the song... I can go for both, but now that I'm playing with another guitarist in my band, I'm going more subtle than ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe Instead of just answering your question (I'm in the "whatever's appropriate for the song / arrangement" camp), may I instead make a suggestion? How about people listing songs that are good examples of over the top, or subtle effects use? Here's one for starters - The Smiths - "How Soon Is Now?". Over the top, but brilliant IMO. Johnny Marr definitely doesn't suck. How about Tommy James & The Shondells "Crimson And Clover"? Again, pretty over the top, but brilliant. Definitely, over-the-top can be great, tastefully and creatively done. Subtle can be great too.Over-the-top:MBV's Loveless albumUnderstated: anything by Jeff BuckleyI don't really think the amount of effects pedals you use has anything to do with how good or bad a song is. The biggest thing is to do whatever you're doing tastefully and creatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members losergeek Posted October 10, 2006 Members Share Posted October 10, 2006 Originally posted by murch33 The more I age (and I'm not even out of my 20's yet), the more I realize that all I really need is delay and reverb. I'll screw around with lots of different modulations, and then find myself enjoying just the straight sound of guitar -> amp more than anything. The most "over the top" I get is when I have a really lush, deep reverb and then use a volume pedal to make a sort of pad-like effect. I think the biggest thing for me is "songwriting > effects". Too much freaky modulation and I can't hear the notes I'm playing. You gotta stop writing songs that require notes then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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