Members g3rmanium Posted November 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Results At the time I was looking, the folks at TGP didn't even recognize their own favorite pedal, it seems. The votes were 13:11 for Tubescreamer 1. Interesting. HCFX did better at 12:22 for Tubescreamer 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by g3rmanium ResultsAt the time I was looking, the folks at TGP didn't even recognize their own favorite pedal, it seems. The votes were 13:11 for Tubescreamer 1. Interesting.HCFX did better at 12:22 for Tubescreamer 2. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members g3rmanium Posted November 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by Tonemeister87 I don't really care. You sure don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by g3rmanium You sure don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Man In space Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 I don't think this test says much about the pedals used, but more that the signal is as good as the weakest link, in this case the VF11. I'd love to hear this test with a good tubeamp, which is the only way to judge the pedals. If I still prefer the Arion, I'm ordering one right away. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members threm Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by threm Btw The #2 is more meaty but nobody can tell from this clip if the extra meat is worth the additional $200. I can officially trust my ears. Glad to know.That must mean that I`m also right when I stubbornly and continously claim that the Klon does something no other pedal does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 i am glad your ears are that great. i just paid for a stage hog v6 you "sold" me to... by trusting your ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Great Waldo Pepper Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Only thing I can't figure out is why the hell are you putting hot sauce on pizza or pasta, freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members g3rmanium Posted November 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by catalinbread Only thing I can't figure out is why the hell are you putting hot sauce on pizza or pasta, freak. It's delicious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Great Waldo Pepper Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by g3rmanium It's delicious! It's just that there are better applications for hot sauce than pasta or pizza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members g3rmanium Posted November 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by catalinbread It's just that there are better applications for hot sauce than pasta or pizza. And which ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Great Waldo Pepper Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by g3rmanium And which ones? Mexican food is a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members g3rmanium Posted November 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by catalinbread Mexican food is a good starting point. Good idea. Haven't made Tacos in a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by threm I can officially trust my ears. Glad to know. That must mean that I`m also right when I stubbornly and continously claim that the Klon does something no other pedal does. Cost $400? But the Landgraff DO can also do that very well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Another guy did a tubulator demo. The left side of the speaker is a TS9, the right side is a Tubulator.TS9 vs Tubulator From the HC User Review fx section:http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Arion/MTE-1/100/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members threm Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by Uma Floresta Cost $400? But the Landgraff DO can also do that very well! I`ll help you and me and anybody out of the situationHere`s $40 worth of a bad monkey with a P90`s and a little Who vibe (clip not mine)http://www.umsl.edu/~aubuchg/HardRockBadMonkey.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members threm Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by stereotypy i am glad your ears are that great. i just paid for a stage hog v6 you "sold" me to... by trusting your ears I really hope you`ll like it! You should but give it time as there are lots of tweaking options to optimize it for your setup (equing, different tubes). I believe the pedal is really a work of love and passion. At least I can feel it but may be I`m the hyper sensitive guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 what tube do you have put inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by threm I`ll help you and me and anybody out of the situation Here`s $40 worth of a bad monkey with a P90`s and a little Who vibe (clip not mine) http://www.umsl.edu/~aubuchg/HardRockBadMonkey.mp3 Sounds pretty good, actually. Go Monkey, go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members threm Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by stereotypy what tube do you have put inside? Actually I don`t remember right now but I believe I changed the first tube (AX7) with a AT7 for less gain as the Boost mode gave enough gain, especially when driving it with a booster or another OD.You saw that thread over at TGP discussing the tubes, right?From the thread"Mark ships the latests SH with a 12DW7 power tube.4004=12AX74024=12AT7You can try a 12AX7, 12AT7, 5751, 12AY7 or 12AU7 in the pre slot and a 12DW7 or 12AU7 in the power slot. I tried most of the permutations and found the 12AY7/ 12DW7 best for a plexi crunch into a clean Marshall."---------------"As the Stage Hog is a full tube amp I took the trouble to trackdown the best tubes I could find for it.I loaded it with:Mullard 12DW7 - in the power tube sectioneither Mullard 4004/4024/12AU7 in the preamp section.Holy crap! With these tube upgrades the Hog has no peerin drive/dirt pedals. I now only keep my Honeybee aroundfor its headroom-lowering effect and stackability. I need noother dist pedals.The Mullard 12AU7 in particular gives a massive range of chewy,greasy low to mid gain options.I say again. The Stage Hog is the end of my pedal road."---------------"DittoI'm using an RCA 12DW7 and Mullard 12AY7. The lead setting is set to give me a Marshall cranked tone thru a clean Marshall and the normal setting boost my Bruno Twedy Pie.""Mullard CV4004 (12AX7) for high gain applications.This will give you the chunkiest response with that magic "rip" high freq overtones hanging in the air as you play. Use this tube in the preamp slot for modded Marshall or SLO-type tones."----------------"Mullard ecc 83 will produce mid to high gain in the Hog. I found thatswapping the stock JJ's to Mullards removed all trace of grainy, buzzy, smallish sounding preamp distortion. Now its just natural, musical gain. With the Mullards in the Hog it sounds like you are "amp stacking", like many people do with BJF pedals, versus front-ending an ampwith a pedal.The Mullards will give you the last 10% of perfect performance outof the Stage Hog. When I loaded them up in the Hog I heard thedifference from the first chord, and knew I had arrived."and then to all on a tighter budget but with a spare amp around:AnalogMike`s post in the same thread"I always wondered when someone would build something like this, it's a fabulous idea and it sounds like he did it right!However if you already have a small amp that distorts nicely, in addition to your main amp, you can do the same thing. I got this idea from Steve Kimock. Steve runs a little old De Armond amp as a preamp to his Dumbles and Two Rocks. You just need to attach wires to the little amp's speaker, through a pot to set volume, then to your main amp. I made a little box with terminals to clip on the speakers, running to a pot, and a switch so I could use it on any of my small amps. It sounds HUGE like that, I have tried it with my tweed champ and my DeArmond.Or if you don't have a small amp try the stage hog!"-----------------"Originally Posted by haltedanalogmike,Would the speaker ohms make any difference in how to put together that little box? Is that what the switch is for?Or is it literally just two wires from the the + and - speaker terminals on the small amp to the volume pot to the instrument cable into the bigger amp's input?And should the volume pot be a 500k or something else?" "Speaker ohms really make no difference. My switch was to disconnect it (turns it off). Your description above is about right, just need to use the pot as a voltage divider to get the small amp's output down to something to match the big amp's input. I dont remember what I used but 500K could work, if that's too limiting try 100k. One more thing - polarity makes a difference as one lug of the speaker is often ground, the other one should go through the pot to the center of your patch cord to the big amp.have fun!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted November 13, 2006 Members Share Posted November 13, 2006 They both sounded like crap, IMO - were you playing through a solid state amp? It sure sounded like one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted November 13, 2006 Members Share Posted November 13, 2006 yep saw that thread. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members g3rmanium Posted November 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 13, 2006 Originally posted by erksin They both sounded like crap, IMO - were you playing through a solid state amp? No, a Boss VF-1 with a little bit of amp simulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JDandCoke Posted November 13, 2006 Members Share Posted November 13, 2006 i think this was flawed from the beginning... i doubt when recording you wanted to make them sound the same... there must be a little something of you wanting to make the cheap pedal sound better.... personnaly even though i voted for number 1 i would still prefer 2 now just cos you told me it was eternity... there is something special about having something no one else does. thats $200 of mojo id be willing to spend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted November 13, 2006 Members Share Posted November 13, 2006 Originally posted by JDandCoke i think this was flawed from the beginning...i doubt when recording you wanted to make them sound the same... there must be a little something of you wanting to make the cheap pedal sound better....personnaly even though i voted for number 1 i would still prefer 2 now just cos you told me it was eternity...there is something special about having something no one else does. thats $200 of mojo id be willing to spend... If you preferred number 1, why would you go for number 2 just based on the name/price? That's kind of silly, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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