Members Corduroy Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 So, I have a Marhshall Valvestate 8080 (1st generation), and it's actually a very nice amp despite what people say although it has very poor bass, and too much treble. I was thinking about getting a Bad Monkey to boost the bass on it, as I hear they can do this very well. Is this a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangesix Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 yes. although it will be slightly overdriven. maybe an LPB-1 is what you're looking for? both are pretty common and can be tried out at your local music store and both are really nice pedal. i had scored both of those pedals and a fab distortion pedal lot on ebay a while back for 60BIN, good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Corduroy Posted March 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 yes. although it will be slightly overdriven.maybe an LPB-1 is what you're looking for?both are pretty common and can be tried out at your local music store and both are really nice pedal.i had scored both of those pedals and a fab distortion pedal lot on ebay a while back for 60BIN, good deal. But if I turned the gain all the way down, I wouldn't get any over drive would I? And I'll check the LPD-1 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bowlingshirt Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 You should consider an EQ pedal instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Corduroy Posted March 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 You should consider an EQ pedal instead. I thought about that, but arn't they expensive? What's one you would recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Twebbz Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm in the same boat with my Laney although changing to 6L6 power tubes helped me a lot. I'm considering the Pro Tone Boombox.http://www.pedalspluseffectswarehouse.com/Pro_Tone_Boom_Box_p/prot-bbox.htm BTW...The BOSS GE-7 Equalizer will muddy your tone. I have one and don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bowlingshirt Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I thought about that, but arn't they expensive?What's one you would recommend? Dano Fish'n'Chips is about $30 or so, and it's well worth the money. Lot's of people around here have them on their boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangesix Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 But if I turned the gain all the way down, I wouldn't get any over drive would I?And I'll check the LPD-1 out. You'll get a slight overdrive. It all depends on your amp,guitar, strumming. I'd say bad monkey, lpb-1, and fish n chips are all great in different ways.i have all 3 of those. fish n chips may be the most versitile, you can use it to shape your tone, push an od over the top, as a boost for solos, clean boost, bass boost, mid scoops, brutal tones, you can't go wrong. bad monkey is a nice, bargain od, very well made, bassy, some people dont like that about it, but the tone control is nice and could work great for you. i like the direct out, i put my tuner in the direct out so its not in my chain. lpb-1 gives you a nice full sound, good clean boost, lots of bass if needed, might really depend on your amp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Instrospection Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I've used the Bad Monkey as a bass boost/ overdrive at times (sometimes re-amping it via aux sends on my multitrack recorder). Brian Wampler's IndyGuitarist book has a modification where you can change some caps to make it more bass OD compatible--i've never tried it--but it's just fine the way that it is, especially since it has a bass knob, which is a rarity on overdrive pedals until you start hitting the boutique range, usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'd say EQ too. Get a Fish & Chips. LPB-1 is a nice boost ... but if you're looking for more bass ... I think EQ is for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Corduroy Posted March 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Ok! What else are they good for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangerous dan Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I have the 8040 amp, and I run a Bad Monkey into it and it sounds pretty good with a Les Paul or Tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Twebbz Posted April 5, 2008 Members Share Posted April 5, 2008 You may want to investigate a Pro Tone Boombox to shape your tone. It's a copy of the Tonemender circuit. It does a very nice job of boosting without effecting the incoming signal and can provide a bit of overdrive too.http://www.runoffgroove.com/tonemender.htmlhttp://www.pedalspluseffectswarehouse.com/Pro_Tone_Boom_Box_p/prot-bbox.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted April 5, 2008 Members Share Posted April 5, 2008 you might like that. i had a marshall jtm60 that had NO bass to speak of (2x12 open back, my hot rod deluxe with 1x12 had way more bass) so i cranked the bass on my bad monkey and there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve Drojo Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 Just picked one up(Bad Monkey pedal) for my Classic 50 amp Saturday. You will definitely like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 You may also need to consider the limitations of a 1 x 12" combo if you need more bass. I guess it depends on the sound you're after, but sometimes if you need a lot more low end a 4x12" cab is the only viable option. Plenty people here will dispute that fact, but they're likely not to play the same kind of music as me. Fact of the matter is some sounds just need more speaker surface area to push out the level of volume and low end you need. If you're not playing doom, stoner or any kind of metal though, I'd recommend just trying an EQ pedal first. Dano Fish N Chips is indeed cheap and good, like the others have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FuzzShifter Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 You may also need to consider the limitations of a 1 x 12" combo if you need more bass. I guess it depends on the sound you're after, but sometimes if you need a lot more low end a 4x12" cab is the only viable option.Plenty people here will dispute that fact, but they're likely not to play the same kind of music as me. Fact of the matter is some sounds just need more speaker surface area to push out the level of volume and low end you need.If you're not playing doom, stoner or any kind of metal though, I'd recommend just trying an EQ pedal first. Dano Fish N Chips is indeed cheap and good, like the others have said. +1 Mating your amp to a closed-back extension cabinet might offer some of the bass response you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smrz Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 You may also need to consider the limitations of a 1 x 12" combo if you need more bass. I guess it depends on the sound you're after, but sometimes if you need a lot more low end a 4x12" cab is the only viable option.Plenty people here will dispute that fact, but they're likely not to play the same kind of music as me. Fact of the matter is some sounds just need more speaker surface area to push out the level of volume and low end you need.If you're not playing doom, stoner or any kind of metal though, I'd recommend just trying an EQ pedal first. Dano Fish N Chips is indeed cheap and good, like the others have said. +1 Sometimes more is more, despite the people who've argued to me that a boutique champ is enough amp for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 I like the BM as a booster, especially if you need extra bass. Even with the gain all the way turned back, you will get some gain, but it isn't bad. Kinda nice actually. I find used like this the BM is more versatile than my EQ, but both have their purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ads Posted April 22, 2008 Members Share Posted April 22, 2008 i use the marshall dsl401 which is another high treble amp with a lack off bass on the gain channels. i boost it with a bad monkey which helps the tone greatly but if i boost the bass on the bad monkey too much the low end gets boomy and loses definition. i normally run the bad monkey as a clean boost with the hi and low equal at 12:00 and use an eq in the loop just boosting the bass frequencies. This has helped me to get more bass and retain definition for palm muted hi gain stuff. hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkzep52 Posted April 22, 2008 Members Share Posted April 22, 2008 I think a cheap EQ like the Dano Fish and Chips or the Behringer EQ (what I use) will suit you better for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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