Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yes I know it's a TZF ... but what else? I've heard it's a special effects machine, can do a rotary sim, can dial in a tremolo, etc. etc. ... any love for this thing? How difficult is it to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Aaaaaand how do you edit a thread title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DanJep Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 paging Fender&EHXForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah that would be nice ... I'm thinking about trading a trem and a phaser for the Flanger Hoax but I would need to get at least a passable trem sound out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 big footprint = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 big footprint = True but I think I could cram it on my board. I don't use a ton of modulation so I'm thinking about using this (plus delay/reverb/pitch shifter) and calling it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomTFS Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 It's pretty crap for making any kind of good noise.I sent mine back straight away, the noise floor on that thing is ridiculous. HOWEVER If you want to use it as a crazy noisemaking instrument it's awesome! Very easy to make it do all kinds of self oscillation and other stuff. I'd get something else tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bowlingshirt Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Check the lounge for info here:http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1044889 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 ^^^awesome thanks ... that didn't show up on my search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caesar Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 It is a very complicated device. You really have to understand the layout and controls to use it to it's fullest. Having said that, it is an extremely useful pedal. It can get those modulation settings that the clasic phasers and flangers just can't get. It does take a while to learn it. I've read a bunch of stories from people who didn't like it and returned it within days. It takes more than a few days to integrate it. I feel like it's more of a multi-stage phaser with feedback as opposed to a flanger. It is not a classic flanger. Mine gets a noticable volume drop that I have to compensate for. There are still things that it does that I haven't touched. It's a knob twiddler's delight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slight-return Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 modezero has a pretty good gen description page for an overview (and of course, the lounge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Noise... Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 It's pretty crap for making any kind of good noise.I sent mine back straight away, the noise floor on that thing is ridiculous.HOWEVERIf you want to use it as a crazy noisemaking instrument it's awesome! Very easy to make it do all kinds of self oscillation and other stuff.I'd get something else tbh. So, you base your whole view on it around your self-admitted minimal try out? First, it's not a "set and forget" pedal. It's a tweaker's pedal. The thing with the Hoax is that it can literally do ANY sort of modulation, and do it well. It has the best modulation I've heard. Very Analog, not overpowering (unless you want it to be), and clear. It's not just good for crazy sounds. It does standard Phaser/Flanger/Chorus/Leslie/Trem sounds very well. As far as noise goes, on some settings there IS noise. However, with a bit of experience with the pedal, it becomes easy to dial out. Some settings have a volume drop, some a boost, but again, that's the nature of the pedal. You have SO MANY sound options that not all of them are 100% perfect. Either way, it's one of my favorite pedals. I highly recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members driverhasabomb Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 The subtle textures possible with the hoax are often ignored. People see all those knobs and think it must be balls out in your face all the time but it's really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah ... I use very, very little modulation w/ my band. It would be awesome to get one mod pedal to tweak out on ... and dump the rest ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 It's a modulation pedal. . . a lot of modulation is pretty closely related, so anytime you get a modulation pedal with a lot of controls, it is safe to say you'll be able to do a bunch of different modulation sounds. Also, there are different ways of achieving a lot of modulation sounds. For example, my Subdecay Prometheus can do trem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobalt-60 Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah ... I use very, very little modulation w/ my band. It would be awesome to get one mod pedal to tweak out on ... and dump the rest ... I can't imagine something so tweak-based being good in a live situation though. Just imagine having to change just one setting on that thing during a concert - yikes. I say he gets a Poly Chorus, you guys with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 I can't imagine something so tweak-based being good in a live situation though. Just imagine having to change just one setting on that thing during a concert - yikes.I say he gets a Poly Chorus, you guys with me? Yeah that's kinda the point ... I don't use modulation live anyway. I might not even keep the Hoax on my live board. It would be a tweaking at home/recording toy 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 big footprint = why is the fact that it's big such a problem for people? why do people who rarely play out and never tour care if a pedal fits on their board or not? this has always puzzled me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tape Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 I can't see anyone workign well with a Hoax if they expect to get a passable tremolo out of it, among other things. it's not a multi-fx. as others have pointed out, it's a knob-twiddler's delight and nearly an instrument in itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nwtsnma Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 why is the fact that it's big such a problem for people? why do people who rarely play out and never tour care if a pedal fits on their board or not? this has always puzzled me. if it doesnt fit on the board it doesnt count in the best pedalboard competitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Ok good to know. I wouldn't expect it to be a multi fx but the things I hear about it make me think of a Moog (i.e. it will approximate lots of sounds). It's not as if I would try to get it to act like a Semaphore ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobalt-60 Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah that's kinda the point ... I don't use modulation live anyway. I might not even keep the Hoax on my live board. It would be a tweaking at home/recording toy 90% of the time. Yeah, it would be a hell of a studio gadget, but I still think something a bit more straight forward would be more useful, especially if you aren't all that into modulation anyway. Polychorus or Choralflange would be my two picks, that and if you do use them live, they won't be so bad on the board. On the other hand, a Flanger Hoax is on eBay right now for very cheap.... pounce! http://cgi.ebay.com/Electro-Harmonix-Flanger-Hoax-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ350130809065QQihZ022QQcategoryZ41417QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goodhonk Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 get the polychorus and hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted November 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Crap. Ebay is blocked at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobalt-60 Posted November 25, 2008 Members Share Posted November 25, 2008 Crap. Ebay is blocked at work. Damn, it went up like an hour ago too, it's $135. The clock is ticking... Or it's $100 if you, or someone you know, lives near Boston... http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/msg/931642864.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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