Members Outkaster Posted January 12, 2008 Members Share Posted January 12, 2008 Bruce never kicked above the waist till he met Chuck. I think Bruce got a lot out of Chuck Norris in terms of knowledge and expanded on it. Had he not died I don't think Chuck would have been that popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EerieDreamZ Posted January 12, 2008 Members Share Posted January 12, 2008 No it is just that people those guys gave Martial Arts a bad name and a lot of people a false sense of security. I got into the Martial Arts in 1979 and remember. It was my second love from music. Very hard to do both. OK? I got into the martial arts in 75 and I dont recall Chuck giving the arts a bad name. If anything he helped get it out there for more to experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angstwulf Posted January 12, 2008 Members Share Posted January 12, 2008 OK? I got into the martial arts in 75 and I dont recall Chuck giving the arts a bad name. If anything he helped get it out there for more to experience. He did a great job of the opposite - his schools treated it more of a sport than a weirdo foreign violence thing and made it a lot less threatening to the masses. What made him good on the circuit was a brilliant sense of rhythm and timing. Which made for boring fight scenes in his movies. They got better once he picked up a gun and started shooting commies and drug dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted January 14, 2008 Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 OK? I got into the martial arts in 75 and I dont recall Chuck giving the arts a bad name. If anything he helped get it out there for more to experience. Maybe another topic discussion but people like him indirectly influenced a lot of black belts to use stuff in the street that did not work. There are a lot of reports of Martial Artists getting their asses kicked on the street. That is the negative influence I meant, more from the movie side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angstwulf Posted January 14, 2008 Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 Maybe another topic discussion but people like him indirectly influenced a lot of black belts to use stuff in the street that did not work. There are a lot of reports of Martial Artists getting their asses kicked on the street. That is the negative influence I meant, more from the movie side of things.That sort of thing happened long before Chuck and will happen for a long time after. It's another activity that attracts the smartest of the smart and the dumbest of the dumb.Kind of like music and politics. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted January 14, 2008 Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well there were really no Martial Arts movies until Bruce Lee happened to make them fashionable. I just think CN is overated but I respect at least that he made the MA more popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted January 14, 2008 Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 Maybe another topic discussion but people like him indirectly influenced a lot of black belts to use stuff in the street that did not work. There are a lot of reports of Martial Artists getting their asses kicked on the street. That is the negative influence I meant, more from the movie side of things. Have you heard of the current craze 'style' called Capoeira? Supposed to be part martial art, part dance, but it looks like it'd be really ineffective if used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted January 14, 2008 Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 ... She has never seen one of his movies (a lot of his current book fans haven't) and just looked at me funny when I started riffing about how Bruce Lee ripped off Chuck's chest hairs and snapped his neck. She looks at me funny a whole lot. Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted January 14, 2008 Members Share Posted January 14, 2008 Have you heard of the current craze 'style' called Capoeira?Supposed to be part martial art, part dance, but it looks like it'd be really ineffective if used. Yeah I spared with a Capoiea teacher last year. It is done with live drums traditional and has roots from the African Slaves brought to Brazil. It does not look that effective. The mixed martial arts guys I knew laughed at it but then they don't like any traditional arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angstwulf Posted January 15, 2008 Members Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yeah I spared with a Capoiea teacher last year. It is done with live drums traditional and has roots from the African Slaves brought to Brazil. It does not look that effective. The mixed martial arts guys I knew laughed at it but then they don't like any traditional arts. It ain't that new. It just gets "rediscovered" every generation. In the 90s it was in Tekken, the video game. In the 80's it was in a really bad martial arts flick called "Rooftops". In the 70's Kwai Chang Caine had to give some escaped slave the business when he tried to get all Capoirea on his ass. They realized they had a mutual cause and it was all man hugs at the end, if my blurry memory serves me correct. I also remember reading an article in Black Belt years back when they interviewed an old school escrima guy (he came over as a farmer and was old when Chuck was young). Apparently, some capoirea "matches" are more a contest of skill and flair and not hard core fighting. He was invited to fight, didn't realize that and started pounding on the guy. He had to leave in a hurry. Crap, if I had invested as much time in music or martial arts as I did watching TV and and {censored}ty movies, I may have done something useful with myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted January 15, 2008 Members Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yeah Martial Arts provided with me with a lot of good stuff. I had some good instructors but personality wise they all failed me. It is really too bad. Here is the list of MA when they were popular: 50's Judo 60's Karate 70's Kung-Fu 80's Ninja Craze 90's Thai Boxing/Brazilian Jujitsu 2000's Mixed Martial Arts Things have sure changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EerieDreamZ Posted January 16, 2008 Members Share Posted January 16, 2008 Maybe another topic discussion but people like him indirectly influenced a lot of black belts to use stuff in the street that did not work. There are a lot of reports of Martial Artists getting their asses kicked on the street. That is the negative influence I meant, more from the movie side of things.Ah yes, I misunderstood. As a teen I really liked him, Bruce and a little known (nowadays) Jillian Kesner(sp?). Of course there were a LOT of chop-socky shlock films that erupted from the early seventies on that are loads of fun to watch nowadays lol."kill or be Killed & Kill and kill again" come to mind... but they DID have some pretty cool sounding synth scores attached to them (hows that for keeping things on topic lol!)Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OPEN OCEAN Posted January 16, 2008 Members Share Posted January 16, 2008 chuck norris rocks !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted January 16, 2008 Members Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ah yes, I misunderstood. As a teen I really liked him, Bruce and a little known (nowadays) Jillian Kesner(sp?). Of course there were a LOT of chop-socky shlock films that erupted from the early seventies on that are loads of fun to watch nowadays lol. "kill or be Killed & Kill and kill again" come to mind... but they DID have some pretty cool sounding synth scores attached to them (hows that for keeping things on topic lol!) Mick Yeah they are fun with all the fake wigs and costumes. Everyone says change is good, change is good. I am not so sure in the case of the martial arts. I feel the same way about music. I think some integrity/discipline has been lost a long the way for the last 20 years. It is too bad. I just don't see people bettering themselves. Martial Arts can breed bad egos sometimes and that is the problem. That is why the UFC is so big. I was at a MMA school and some of the guys there were really too into themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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