Members stratotastic Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'm in a cover band and we're bringing in more 80's stuff, so I need to step it up in terms of available effects. My current board is wah>comp>dirt(2x)>flange>delay>chorus>vol>amp. I get a surprising number of sounds out of this, but have to do a lot of between-song tweaking (esp the delay) and would like to consolidate. So the dilemma is whether to go for an M9 or an M13. The M13 seems more versatile but is big and would have to cover all my effects needs (incl. dirt) for it to be practical for me. The M9 would sit nicely with some of my current effects, but I hate the fact that there are no effects loops to plug them into like on the M13 (would want to run comps and some filters/mods before dirt). I just wanted to find out if any of you guys bought either one of these and wished you had gotten the other, and why. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyowen Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 if you want other effects get the m13, you will need the effects loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratotastic Posted December 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 if you want other effects get the m13, you will need the effects loop I'd really like to not have to use other effects. I guess this is something I can't know until I actually use one of these for a while. It seems silly that the M9 doesn't have the effects loops, since that's the unit you'd be more likely to need them with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeoxlong Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 m16 in my own opinion, the 3 shot burst maintains excellent accuracy wait wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 wait for the M14 at winter namm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members houseofglass21 Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 You will buy an M13, you will have pancakes for breakfast and yes that dress makes you look fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I've had an M9 since they came out...... and while the lack of an effects loop may be a bit problematic for some, I haven't had that bad of a time with it at all. I'm runing a few FX out in front of it right now, but I can play with just the M9 if need be. This is my main scene into a clean amp: 1A: Compressed cleans w/ expression control for volume 1B: Expression controlled low to mid-gain OD w/ a bass rolloff 2A: Choppy Opto Trem w/ 1/8th note tap speed control 2B: Analog Delay w/ lots of Modulation & 1/4 note tap speed control 3A: Plate reverb w/ expression control for mix/decay 3B: Tube comp for boost w/ expression control for volume Typically I'm running a compressor in front of this. I've got another scene in the same folder (there are 4 folders, with 6 different scenes) with expression controlled Whammy & Wah Probe-ish thing in 1A/B, a higher gain distortion and octave down fuzz in 2A/B and a tube delay & flanger in 3A/B. Then, I've got another folder set up like individual XX-4 pedal. One for modulation (like the MM-4), delay (DL-4), reverb (Verbzilla), distortions, filters... etc. So I can put the M9 where I want w/ my other FX. I've got another folder set up for use w/ my amps. In fact, I threw the M9 in the loop of my Mesa a few weeks ago w/ settings for boost, EQ, delay, modulation, filtering....... and had a blast. Lots of possibilities. And I didn't even mention latch-scene mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dkerwood Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Tell you what, after doing some digging, I'm seriously considering replacing my whole back row with the M9. Back there right now, I'm using a flanger, 2 EQs, chorus, volume pedal, and delay. I've been thinking about replacing the flanger with a phaser, but the M9 could replace them all. Plus, since the M9 would immediately follow my dirt pedals, I could still use distortions should I so choose (even though the dirt models were what turned me off of the M13). ...Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I've had an M9 since they came out...... and while the lack of an effects loop may be a bit problematic for some, I haven't had that bad of a time with it at all. I'm runing a few FX out in front of it right now, but I can play with just the M9 if need be. This is my main scene into a clean amp: 1A: Compressed cleans w/ expression control for volume 1B: Expression controlled low to mid-gain OD w/ a bass rolloff2A: Choppy Opto Trem w/ 1/8th note tap speed control 2B: Analog Delay w/ lots of Modulation & 1/4 note tap speed control3A: Plate reverb w/ expression control for mix/decay 3B: Tube comp for boost w/ expression control for volumeTypically I'm running a compressor in front of this.I've got another scene in the same folder (there are 4 folders, with 6 different scenes) with expression controlled Whammy & Wah Probe-ish thing in 1A/B, a higher gain distortion and octave down fuzz in 2A/B and a tube delay & flanger in 3A/B. Then, I've got another folder set up like individual XX-4 pedal. One for modulation (like the MM-4), delay (DL-4), reverb (Verbzilla), distortions, filters... etc. So I can put the M9 where I want w/ my other FX. I've got another folder set up for use w/ my amps. In fact, I threw the M9 in the loop of my Mesa a few weeks ago w/ settings for boost, EQ, delay, modulation, filtering....... and had a blast. Lots of possibilities. And I didn't even mention latch-scene mode. What do you prefer, the M9 or a bunch of your individual pedals? I kinda wanna try the M9 to see what all the fuss is about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I like the M9, a lot. Question is, will I like another month or two from now? Likely, yes. But I don't want to ditch all of my pedals for it either. I like the combination of some good dirt pedals (I have also kept my Empress tremolo, Luna, and Diamond Vibrato pedal) before my M9, so I like the mix of both. The M9 though is great for having a lot of other effects I don't use as often, like flange, but I've discovered has some nice tones in it for sure. It's also my only delay now, and reverb pedal, so it gets used a lot for that. Even some of the distortion settings I'm finding pretty good, but I'm still glad I have my regular pedals too. But my total board is only 9 pedals, and it all fits nicely on a PT2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 What do you prefer, the M9 or a bunch of your individual pedals? I kinda wanna try the M9 to see what all the fuss is about Whichever gets me closer to that holy grail of Third Eye Blinding tone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I like the M9, a lot. Question is, will I like another month or two from now? Likely, yes. But I don't want to ditch all of my pedals for it either. I like the combination of some good dirt pedals (I have also kept my Empress tremolo, Luna, and Diamond Vibrato pedal) before my M9, so I like the mix of both.The M9 though is great for having a lot of other effects I don't use as often, like flange, but I've discovered has some nice tones in it for sure. It's also my only delay now, and reverb pedal, so it gets used a lot for that. Even some of the distortion settings I'm finding pretty good, but I'm still glad I have my regular pedals too. But my total board is only 9 pedals, and it all fits nicely on a PT2. I'm a lot like you, Ian. I like having the M9 around..... but not at the expense of my stomps. Could I get by with just that? Sure. Probably. Do I want to though? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Whichever gets me closer to that holy grail of Third Eye Blinding tone... And what a heavenly tone it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 So when you sell your M9 Nick, is everyone else going to as well? Haha, I hope not. You still see a ton of DL4s on people's boards. If you go to the Pedaltrain website and look at their examples, I think this may be the most popular pedal ever made. Or at least top 5, given it's cost and size. I can see the M9 replacing it for a lot of people though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 So when you sell your M9 Nick, is everyone else going to as well? Haha, I hope not. Honestly. And I mean Honestly. If I started selling pedals..... the M9 wouldn't be near the top of the offing list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 lol nick, you sure like to squash your tone. Soon you'll learn you don't need dynamics to play third eye blind... err I mean you do... or don't you? Yay compressors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 lol nick, you sure like to squash your tone. Soon you'll learn you don't need dynamics to play third eye blind... err I mean you do... or don't you? Yay compressors! Say what you want... I love what the Diamond does for my sound. The compression knob is barely ever past 10:00 and I still have a good amount of dynamic control. I love that thing. More good than harm'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 1A: Compressed cleans w/ expression control for volume 3B: Tube comp for boost w/ expression control for volume Typically I'm running a compressor in front of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 "Typically" being the operative word there. I never really use 1A unless I'm just using the M9 w/out anything else. And 3B is just a boost, really. Compression is dialed back, but that particular model adds some nice girth to the Tube Drive in 1B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 "Typically" being the operative word there. I never really use 1A unless I'm just using the M9 w/out anything else. And 3B is just a boost, really. Compression is dialed back, but that particular model adds some nice girth to the Tube Drive in 1B. Girth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'm glad you got something out of that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'm glad you got something out of that post. I got a lot of girth out of that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Woody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Your avatar's got a woody for my avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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