Members TimmyT Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hey guys, I'm looking at buying a good A/B/Y box to switch between and blend my two amps. Any suggestions or tips on what I should be looking for. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 the best I know of it the Radial Switchbone, I hear the Lehle is good as well. you want ones (as mentioned) with transformer isolated outputs to avoid ground loops. the regular AB/Y boxes are just glorified Y cables and kind of a waste of time imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imbuedblue Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 the best I know of it the Radial Switchbone, I hear the Lehle is good as well. you want ones (as mentioned) with transformer isolated outputs to avoid ground loops. the regular AB/Y boxes are just glorified Y cables and kind of a waste of time imo. This. The Radial Bones Twin-City is pared down version of the Switchbone. The Lehle Dual and Little Dual are great as well, but are a bit more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 I bought a mini A/B/Y from Dan @ This1smyne that was really good and relatively inexpensive. Also had a Loop-Master switcherbox at one point that was very well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 www.startouchpedals.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axe_34 Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 www.startouchpedals.comYep. Tony is the man. I've ordered two boxes from him. Top-shelf build quality and components and his customer service is out of this world. Both times when I ordered online he called me at home to ask a few questions about my setup and needs to make sure I was getting exactly what I needed. He then followed up with calls later on to see what I thought of the gear. All on his time and his dime.Without a doubt the best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Plus they're built like brick {censored}houses. Top quality gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tronus Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 I use/used my WOBO ABY pretty much every day for the past year or so. Works perty gewd EDIT: I guess some things I should say about this unit is it uses relays instead of mechanical switches... I believe it's buffered due to that.... It also has a ground loop switch. Those Startouch's look really nice. Sounds like the guy is into what he does and his website kinda makes me feel that way too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imbuedblue Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 As Reauchambeau said, there are problems with purely passive ABY boxes like the Startouch, This1smyne, and Loop-Master. Aside from ground loops, which can be avoided by other means, your amps might be out of phase from one another causing phase cancellation in certain spots of the room. And since the ABY is passive, when you are running in Y-mode you are splitting your guitar signal in half, loading down your pickups. This will be noticeable if you switch from both amps to a single amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axe_34 Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 ALL pedals come with point to point wiring. Attention to detail is of the utmost importance to us at Startouch. Wired using OFC, oxygen free copper, hi-performance 18ga. primary wire. Prepped to the perfect fit at every connection, to ensure the best possible signal flow. Connections are made using hi grade solder. Wire insulation ends have heat shrink moldings. All parts are of the highest quality, and durability. Units are double grounded, with 100% shielding to, eliminate, minimize RF noise, and ground hum. All units come with 9-volt battery hook up. 9-volt power for LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I've had very good luck with the Radio Big Shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members booher Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 www.startouchpedals.com Only complaint on mine is that I didn't get one with a 9v jack. They make one, though. Bought mine used for a good deal so I shouldn't really fuss about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 i have the wobo as well. it's a good unit. i've had it for a few years. there's no signal bleed at all and the ground lift switch is a must. they're pretty well priced to. these also look good for the moneyhttp://www.roadrageprogear.com/aby.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members decode6 Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Whirlwind Selector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimtalkbox Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.loop-master.com/index.php?cPath=26&osCsid=df9u9iceigd21na6stjho2rin2 I've ordered one from here. Good quality & you can get any combo of LED colors you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyT Posted February 23, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 Guys, thanks heaps for all your help. Those Startouch pedals look rad. I think I got some good suggestions, so I'll look into them all. I was looking at the Radial and Lehle pedals earlier and they seemed cool too. Are any of you guys running/blending/switching between amps on your current rig? If so, what are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 i run two amps. usually both at once. it's two marshalls. one's an '81 jmp and the other is an '82 jcm 800, but they're both 2203's, essentially they're the same amp. one has 6550's and one has el34's. i have used a whirlwind and a morely ab/y switch and they sucked. they have no provision for dealing with ground loop hum, which you will certainly encounter. and i experienced signal bleed with both of them, which sucks. i think it's really worth getting an active, buffered ab/y with a ground lift switch. the startouch looks like a decent product and a good company, but it is a passive switch. same with the loop-master. i'm sure these are better than a morely, but i would spend a bit more and get a really good one. the lehle and the switchbone's are really nice, but you don't have to spend that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 As Reauchambeau said, there are problems with purely passive ABY boxes like the Startouch, This1smyne, and Loop-Master. Aside from ground loops, which can be avoided by other means, your amps might be out of phase from one another causing phase cancellation in certain spots of the room. And since the ABY is passive, when you are running in Y-mode you are splitting your guitar signal in half, loading down your pickups. This will be noticeable if you switch from both amps to a single amp. This. There is a difference between the passive ones and something like the Lehle. This week I had delivered a ABY pedal made by a forumite on Musicradar. I've had one before, stupidly sold it, and ordered one direct to keep this time. It isn't passive, has a superb buffer, and is very quiet. The Startouch is quiet, slightly quirky in that it doesn't use the normal Boss 9v negative tip, and is very well built but you do get the problems mentioned thanks to its passive nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axe_34 Posted February 23, 2011 Members Share Posted February 23, 2011 I run an 18-watt Marshall clone and a '68 SF champ in stereo. And for what it's worth, no ground hum, phase or bleed issues with my Startouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyT Posted February 24, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thoughts on this bad boy (http://www.tonebone.com/bones-twincity.htm). It's a little bit cheaper than the Switch bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted February 24, 2011 Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thoughts on this bad boy (http://www.tonebone.com/bones-twincity.htm). It's a little bit cheaper than the Switch bone. first time I've seen that one, looks like it has all the features I'd want, especially the drag control, isolation transformer and polarity switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyT Posted February 24, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 Yeah. I think they look ok. There are a few on ebay brand new for about $150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members delay dude Posted February 24, 2011 Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 I use a Lehle Dual SGOS with my Fender and Vox Amps and I love it. Silent switching, no hum. It is a bit pricey but solid as a rock! If you buy one of these you will never need another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ming Chow Posted February 24, 2011 Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 Probably the most used pedal of my bunch. Whirlwind Selector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members delay dude Posted February 24, 2011 Members Share Posted February 24, 2011 Probably the most used pedal of my bunch. =and the reason of Hum-Noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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