Members Reauchambeau Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 I read somewhere that the Supa Tonebender is very similar to a Big Muff. my question is, can a NYC Big Muff be modded to be a Supa Tonebender clone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members renula Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goodhonk Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 sure. check out the barber trifecta. [video=youtube;TcAQ9KTW494]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcAQ9KTW494 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edkoppel Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 ok, here is a good reference link to all things Supa and Jumbo///it should help.http://stompboxes.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14845#p14845 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SonicVI Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 Yes it can. The basic difference between the two is just one pair of diodes (the Jumbo has one less transistor as well). Remove them and you're most of the way there. There are some different resistor values between the two, but the diodes are what make the big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SonicVI Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 This is a write up I did for NYC Big Muff to Jumbo Tone Bender conversion I did for Talk Bass years ago. There may have been revisions to the Big Muff since then. I dunno. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/how-usa-big-muff-colorsound-tone-bender-conversion-355820/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members renula Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 Yes it can. The basic difference between the two is just one pair of diodes (the Jumbo has one less transistor as well). Remove them and you're most of the way there. There are some different resistor values between the two, but the diodes are what make the big difference. can you explain this better for the fx diagram impaired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SonicVI Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 There are two transistor stages in the Big Muff that have clipping diodes. In the Supa there are the same two stages but only the second one has the clipping diodes. If you remove the diodes from the first stage in the Big Muff then you have the primary difference between the two. They also use different transistors and have some different resistor values, but those make less of a difference. You could even put those diodes on a switch to go between the BM and Supa sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members renula Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 Thanks sonic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urinate Forever Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 triangle muff ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 That sounded pretty good. Odd you don't see more of them. edit: do want! [video=youtube;-ulckq0eqfA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted March 8, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 This is a write up I did for NYC Big Muff to Jumbo Tone Bender conversion I did for Talk Bass years ago. There may have been revisions to the Big Muff since then. I dunno. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/how-usa-big-muff-colorsound-tone-bender-conversion-355820/ awesome, I'm a bass player so it's good to know it's bass friendly. thanks, this is really helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 Where'd this guy get a pic of my pedalboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SonicVI Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 sounds awesome, I have an NYC BM sitting around collecting dust, so imma try modding it. thank you awesome, I'm a bass player so it's good to know it's bass friendly. thanks, this is really helpful I think the Jumbo and Supa Tone Bender sound BETTER with bass than guitar. They almost sound like they have a clean blend built in that works great with bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edkoppel Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 agreed,at least on the Jumbo. It sounds amazing on bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted March 8, 2012 Members Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think the Jumbo and Supa Tone Bender sound BETTER with bass than guitar. They almost sound like they have a clean blend built in that works great with bass. That's because of the clipping diodes. They're removed in the first section, which means that opposed to a regular Muff circuit where it's clipping an already clipped signal, there's only one clipping stage. Jump to about 6:15 on this video I made, and I explain it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted March 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 That's because of the clipping diodes. They're removed in the first section, which means that opposed to a regular Muff circuit where it's clipping an already clipped signal, there's only one clipping stage.Jump to about 6:15 on this video I made, and I explain it a bit.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMvo11KmMEM&t=6m15s thanks everyone, I'm looking forward to this project because it sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SonicVI Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 That's because of the clipping diodes. They're removed in the first section, which means that opposed to a regular Muff circuit where it's clipping an already clipped signal, there's only one clipping stage. Ja, I pretty much explained that earlier in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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