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So how do I get my money back from Carl Zwengel?


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From that link that knucklefux provided, it looks like Carl finally finished that 4 channel design that he started years ago. If he has any hope of making it in the amp biz, he needs to give Grubgoat his amp. He needs to eat some public crow and make things right. Otherwise, he's no better than Cameron.

 

Still can't believe I called this guy my friend years ago.

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Originally posted by JBTubehead

I know a little how Carl operates. I'll bet you $10 that the amp has been done for quite a while, and it's just sitting there amongst all the other
stuff
in his basement.



That would suck.

I just found this "thread that never dies". I'm from Princeton, and I would help if I could, but He's in the pen, for a LOOOOONG time. Our buddy Carl was busted in an interstate Child Porn ring. I know a guy who is an electronic genius. I gave my left kidney to his Brother (not Carl's Brother, the genius's Brother.)Anyway, Carl liked little kids a lot. Too much! The Feds sold his house, so contact the Feds. They may send You your money. There were no amps in the basement. My Buddy the Genius did buy some cabinets, Banshee chassis, and a bunch of components. If someone needs a Banshee repaired, my friend Paul could do it. He has nothing to do with Carl the Kiddie lover. He just bought the components from the couple who bought his house from the Feds. Carl probably would have made good on the orders. If he was'nt hiding from the guys in prison who hate child porn guys. This is the truth, and not slander. Punch in Carl Zwengel and Child Pornography and You'll see why Your amp wasn't shipped. Peace.Also, Princeton Police probably would have helped You. Princeton is a town of about 7500 people, and there are probably about six cops on the force, and all nice guys. They would have talked to him. The funny thing is, the guy who got my kidney could throw a rock through Carl's window from his back porch. Anyway, here's a bump for an interesting thread. I think that He did make pretty good amps, but his love for pictures of little kids ruined his business, his brain, and his life. You talk about Karma! I'm sure that He was very popular with the weight lifters in prison. The toughest guys in Prison HATE child molesters, and I'm sure that they knew what his crime was before He ever got off of the bus.Plus, Princeton is not the kind of town that would take kindly to what He did. I'm sure that He got beat up in the county jail while He was awaiting tirial and conviction. Contact the Feds. They may be happy to give You $400 of a molestor's money. And finally, I don't know how He got to Princeton, but I guarantee You that He didn't grow up there! Guys from Princeton would like to kick his butt too.
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I haven't been here in years, and only came back because I got an email saying someone had posted in this thread, which is the post above.

 

Which is CRAZY! If true. A google search DOES draw the same conclusions as "ajay taylor" mentions above, same name, same charges, same area. Whoa.

 

For anyone that missed the detail (this is a long, boring thread), NO, I did NOT get all by money back, I sent him $1600, and only got $1200 back. I repeat this only to lay out the facts, I'm in no way bitter or whatever. $400 is a *GREAT* price for a relevant life lesson, and this sh1t was 10 years ago now. I've saved 10,000 times that amount since then just from knowing "when its too good to be true". So, Thank you, Carl, you should have been a financial planner...

 

I'm not proud of calling the man certain "names" over the internet in this thread (I'm ABSOLUTELY not afraid to call you things to your face, but calling names on the internet or in a rap song is for sad effing losers), but in an odd twist it appears (based on the post above) that he has become both of the things I called him. And that's all I'll say, there's nothing cool or comical about that crime, none at all... and honestly $400 isn't enough money to warrant "what happens to ChoMos in prison", ahem...

 

Anyway, I STILL have that stupid Banshee 50. I got it out about 3 years ago, and got a nice "Live At Leeds" kinda sound going. Then I let it sit a while, and the next time I powered it up, *POOMPH*, the amp sparked and firework-smoke started rolling out of the thing. I know of a local tech that could get it running. But it will stay dead for now. Bye bye.

 

Before that, though, it was a pretty rad sounding amp, and for anyone who reads all this and says "why would that grubby fool send this guy money in the first place?", I'll answer BECAUSE, I had a *great* product in hand, I had an internet rife with reviews and sound clips and testimonials (by which I mean other guys who were validating my own decision every few days in various posts on the net), plus an affable builder who had no problems telling me what I wanted to hear. And I was 25 years old or so, and naive. Like you never were...

 

I mean, I understand, YOU are far too smart to be taken in by that sh1t. By the way, would you like to buy my Ali-Baba stock? Its a bargain, and the *billions* of dollars they're *sure* to make in the future can be yours to claim...

 

Anyway, now that Carl is "gone", I feel better about this thread than ever. NOW its NOT about one guy. Its about YOU, YOU the person on the internet who reads about some hype new amp or pedal and you just *KNOW* in your gut that you have to have it, that the builder is the real deal, and a great guy, etc. Stop. Stop now. Just STOP.

 

One guy in this thread coined the awesome term - Don't Get Zwengled!!!

 

And the other 97% of you, who are far too discerning to ever get taken by a scam... just ignore this thread.

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