Members BrendanO Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage Most/many people who win the lottery end up with nothing after a somewhat short period of time anyway. The problem is, if you don't know how to manage money, it doesn't matter how much you have, it's going to disappear because if you have more, you'll spend more. Yep. No managment skills. They win $20,000,000, and go but a 5 million dollar house, a dick with wheels for all their friends, and fill a pool with Jell-O, and wonder why they're bankrupt a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by gainfreak I would rather be a rich sellout then a poor hasbeen. No doubt. The guys who claim their " musical integrity" would get in the way are a crackup, whether they're just plain dumb-serious or just aren't really thinking it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members draelyc Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by XamendedX that depends, to me selling out is AILD, a band that used to stand up for their faith and now acts like God doesn't even exist onstage. in that respect, no I would not sell out. Not for any amount of money. If selling out is signing to a major label and dumbing down my music...yeah, I'd sell out:D In the immortal words of St. Hendrix: There's a difference between selling a record and selling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by BrendanO Yep. No managment skills. They win $20,000,000, and go but a 5 million dollar house, a dick with wheels for all their friends, and fill a pool with Jell-O, and wonder why they're bankrupt a year later. HAHAHAHA... that's it! What they seem to dumb to understand is that lifestyle needs to be fed with income, whether earned or passive. These people can't figure out how to get enough flow to pay the property taxes on the new house, let alone all the peripheral spending to keep that up. I mean, just the fact that most of the people who win shouldn't be spending their money on lottery tickets in the first place tells you something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rambleon223 Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 I'd sell out and play whatever music is deemed "sellout music" for what I make a year now. I'd play any kind of music for a cool mil in a New Yawk minute!!!! Most people who wouldn't probably just haven't been out in the workforce very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monsoon Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 I'd play guitar backing up Rafi's kid tunes if it meant that I could make a living playing guitar. And put a million dollars in the picture? At the end of the day, that's a lot of money for someone to want me to play guitar for them. And that's ok by me. We're going to the zoo, zoo, zoo. How about you, you, you. You can come too, too, too. We're going to the zoo, zoo, zoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 I'm really surprised about the responses in this thread. Usually the "artistic integrity" zealots are all over these threads like stink on poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members squealie Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage No doubt. The guys who claim their " musical integrity" would get in the way are a crackup, whether they're just plain dumb-serious or just aren't really thinking it through. 'Selling out' is a myth. What really happens is this: I stumbled onto some band/artist, and not too many people have heard of them. I can turn some of my buds onto this, and if they like it.... cool. If not, they just don't know what good music is... 2 years and another album later, now the whole world knows who they are, and if I tell somebody that I like them, I'm not special, or 'in the know' ... I'm just one of 10 million other dickheads who are into it. So they suck. And they sold out. Ain't I special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yabba Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 I'd sell out for a hell of a lot less than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage HAHAHAHA... that's it! What they seem to dumb to understand is that lifestyle needs to be fed with income, whether earned or passive. These people can't figure out how to get enough flow to pay the property taxes on the new house, let alone all the peripheral spending to keep that up. I mean, just the fact that most of the people who win shouldn't be spending their money on lottery tickets in the first place tells you something... I dunno about dumb, I think it's a sense of scale. Say you get a blue collar guy, with three kids. He's probably really good at blancing the check book to a dime so he can feed his kids at $25,000 a year as a cop, teacher, garbage man or something. Now, give that person $20M....it might as well be infinity money to someone like that. You're making $15K a year at Burger King, $20M is probably too much to *really* get your head around. So you end up blowing all the money on stupid {censored}. Because it's $20M, how could I ever spend that kind of money? By buying a $5M house, that's how. Buy a nice house in a nice neighborhood, and a new Honda, don't go buying a house in Beverly Hills and a Bently. DUMBASS. If I ever get $1M free and clear, you best believe I'm going to seek out a professional financial advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by squealie 2 years and another album later, now the whole world knows who they are, and if I tell somebody that I like them, I'm not special, or 'in the know' ... I'm just one of 10 million other dickheads who are into it.So they suck. And they sold out.Ain't I special? I've said this for years: The best band in the world is the one that only YOU listen to. As soon as you show them to your friend, they're worthless sellouts pandering to the masses. Because two people can go to a band's head like that. And their wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monsoon Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage I'm really surprised about the responses in this thread. Usually the "artistic integrity" zealots are all over these threads like stink on poo. If I was already doing ok making a living playing guitar, and I was in a band that I really felt was going places and could make it (ask me again in a year...I'm loving the band I'm in now), then I might have answered differently. I'm guessing the people who have responded are people who are at their day jobs, and would rather be playing guitar at this particular moment. Whereas, those who are already "making it" as a musician who would be more likely to go the artistic integrity route are either sleeping off last night's performance, getting ready to get to their next performance, or playing/practicing. Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurtisqpublic Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Tele The Truth Your Price is much to high. I'd do it for $20. I'm a musical whore. Same here I'd play anything anywhere. Music is music I've played it all from Gospel to John Denver and From Metal to Blues to Funk and everything in between~Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BOOGIE666 Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 what if say it were a million dollars to play scooped mid nu-metal for two years. Could you guys hack it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by BOOGIE666 what if say it were a million dollars to play scooped mid nu-metal for two years. Could you guys hack it??? We're musicians: it's only a matter of time until we're all wandering around, glazed look in our eye, screaming at random people as we stumble down the street, half baked on coke and booze.... Yeah, I'd add a backwards baseball cap to that for $1M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RockNote Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Sorry to be vulgar, but are we talking boy bands? Then no! This is male prostitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by BrendanO I dunno about dumb, I think it's a sense of scale. Say you get a blue collar guy, with three kids. He's probably really good at blancing the check book to a dime so he can feed his kids at $25,000 a year as a cop, teacher, garbage man or something.Now, give that person $20M....it might as well be infinity money to someone like that. You're making $15K a year at Burger King, $20M is probably too much to *really* get your head around. So you end up blowing all the money on stupid {censored}. Because it's $20M, how could I ever spend that kind of money?By buying a $5M house, that's how.Buy a nice house in a nice neighborhood, and a new Honda, don't go buying a house in Beverly Hills and a Bently. DUMBASS.If I ever get $1M free and clear, you best believe I'm going to seek out a professional financial advisor. Maybe "dumb" is strong, perhaps ignorant is a better term. I think it's really simple, however, live below your means. If you're clearing $100,000 a year, then live on $75k or less and save/invest the rest, if you're clearing $50k, try to live on $38k and invest/save the rest. Of course, getting a lump sum can indeed confuse people, but still, it's what's coming through that should be used as a guage, not the big heap. Buy expensive toys, and they must be maintained. An yeah, kickin' cash out for a good financial advisor is prudent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Monsoon Whereas, those who are already "making it" as a musician who would be more likely to go the artistic integrity route are either sleeping off last night's performance, getting ready to get to their next performance, or playing/practicing. Just a guess. Right, and most of those doing that today will be wondering where they're going to make their next dollar, three years from now. Then, they'll "sell out," if they have the opportunity, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage Maybe "dumb" is strong, perhaps ignorant is a better term.I think it's really simple, however, live below your means. If you're clearing $100,000 a year, then live on $75k or less and save/invest the rest, if you're clearing $50k, try to live on $38k and invest/save the rest.Of course, getting a lump sum can indeed confuse people, but still, it's what's coming through that should be used as a guage, not the big heap. Buy expensive toys, and they must be maintained.An yeah, kickin' cash out for a good financial advisor is prudent! We agree completely, Bob. I'm not around here enough to know if this is a good or bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ratter Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 My sell-out price isn't anywhere near $1M. I would do much worse things for much less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 HELL NO!!!! METAL TILL I DIE, MOTHER {censored}ER!!!! :evil: :mad: :evil: just kidding. of cousre i'd sell out for a mil. actually i'd do it for a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by RockNote Sorry to be vulgar, but are we talking boy bands? Then no! This is male prostitution. Dude, if the Backstreet Boys offered you 1 mil a year to go on tour and play guitar with them, you'd be on stage behind them jumping around and pretending to enjoy the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members STEEL KAGE Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage For a million a year, I'd do it until they stopped paying me. Abso-friggin-lutely!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members salvador Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 but would you play guitar for ashlee simpson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by salvador but would you play guitar for ashlee simpson? Yes. Why not? 1 million? She could lip synch over my guitar parts all she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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