Members Tusks Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 Who's Bert? Bert Smorenburg's demos look like this ... [YOUTUBE]Bert Smorenburg[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have a sad, pathetic theory of how they might try to justify that peep-hole caliber LCD: most people that need to do any "serious editing" will do so with an included PC editor. Yeah but that argument isn't going to cut it with those of us who edit our sounds away from home. I'm tweaking a new board in rehearsal, on stage - and this is supposed to be a stage oriented board. You can't tell what things are going to sound like until you play through your stage system with the band. Yamaha puts larger more informative displays than this on their PSRs. I'm not sure what's going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 I just want the {censored}in thing to be released so I can sell the S-90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dan88z Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 My guess is the work flow goes like this- you use the PC editor to do the main creation. you get to the gig and have to adjust a parameter, it's easily accessible via a knob, you tweak, and save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 ...happily holding on to my S90ES... I got my wish. Yamaha replaced the S90ES with an S90XS. I don't think I'll be in line to buy it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 ...unless the C6 sample knocks my socks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 Duff link removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 Duff specs removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tonyrobbins Posted June 8, 2009 Members Share Posted June 8, 2009 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it has breath controller input.! 22 kg for the 88 version??? to good to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burningbusch Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 Sorry I don't buy those specs. They look identical to the S90ES. If the Motif XS has 355MB (when converted to 16-bit linear format), 2,670 waveforms, why would the S90XS have so much less, considering it supposedly has ALL the Motif XS waveforms plus a new piano. Also the editors in the spec reference ES only, not the XS. I'm betting the PLG boards are gone as well as the breath controller. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tonyrobbins Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 breath controller input is there didnt you read?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agoldstraw Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm pretty sure that all this amounts to is a tiny bit of premature editing to that shop's existing S90ES page. The board pictured is not the new S90XS, presuming that has the same look as the 70 leaked on the video. Plus, there is no reference to any of the new features Athan Billias mentioned in that video. Plus, as Busch pointed out, the specs posted on that page are 100% comparable with that cited on the ES's official Yamaha site page. I would personally be surprised if breath control survived. How many 90-users actually use that feature? The trend in modern manufacturing is to cut costs by deleting features not seen as "mainstream" - the reason Apple gave yesterday for subbing out the Express card on the new Macbook Pros for an SD slot. The PLG slots, I think, have not a cat in hell's chance of surviving. The Motif XS range already demonstrated that Yamaha views that as pretty much redundant technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tuba Four Posted June 9, 2009 Members Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm pretty sure that all this amounts to is a tiny bit of premature editing to that shop's existing S90ES page. The board pictured is not the new S90XS, presuming that has the same look as the 70 leaked on the video. Plus, there is no reference to any of the new features Athan Billias mentioned in that video. Plus, as Busch pointed out, the specs posted on that page are 100% comparable with that cited on the ES's official Yamaha site page. I would personally be surprised if breath control survived. How many 90-users actually use that feature? The trend in modern manufacturing is to cut costs by deleting features not seen as "mainstream" - the reason Apple gave yesterday for subbing out the Express card on the new Macbook Pros for an SD slot.The PLG slots, I think, have not a cat in hell's chance of surviving. The Motif XS range already demonstrated that Yamaha views that as pretty much redundant technology. +1000000000000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkMO8 Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 It's official...http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/synthesizers/s9070_xs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wineandkeyz Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hm... I was really interested in the S70XS when I saw the video, but now I'm not so sure. I currently play an S90ES and absolutely love it. Its biggest drawbacks are its size and weight, so I was thinking I might buy an S70XS for gigging and leave the S90ES at home for practicing. Looking at the specs, though, I just don't know if it would be worth it. While the S70XS adds some features (like additional wave ROM, waveforms, etc.), it's only 5" shorter than the S90ES and only 5.6 lb lighter. And they've actually REDUCED the number of available effects S70XS - 9 reverb types vs. 20 on the S90ES; 22 chorus types vs. 49 on the S90ES...). Unless Yamaha prices them very competitively, I don't know if I can justify the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChromaLord Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 I looked all over that website and never found anything on the S90X except for one thing and when I clicked on it an ad for the Fantom played, and on that note Id be pretty hopping mad if I were Roland- did any of you guys see the NAMM demo of the new Roland Brass expansion board for the G series?- that dude seriously has now idea how brass is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 The S70 is only 3kgs lighter than my S90 and only 7mm shorter!!! haha what a joke - Yamaha really dropped the ball in making a 'portable' instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hobbes Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 Really disappointing! I was really waiting to replace my s90es, but that woun't happen. Why can't they move the wheels back up? And what's up with that tiny display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 And they've actually REDUCED the number of available effects S70XS - 9 reverb types vs. 20 on the S90ES; 22 chorus types vs. 49 on the S90ES...). Most of the reverb and chorus types on the ES series are actually one effect with different settings. I think it was to make programming easier, but it could have well been to inflate the numbers on the spec sheet as a side benefit. The way these guys think. MOtif XS reverbs are much nicer than ES reverbs. I think the same will be true with these "S" boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agoldstraw Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 The size and weight are a bit disappointing but this could still be an excellent all-rounder machine. Too early to say. I note that, as expected, neither PLG nor breath controller make it to the new machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 This is why the internet is a bad thing. People are complaining and it has not even hit the streets yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitarsoul34 Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 Outkaster, you beat me to the punch. No one's even PLAYED the board yet or seen it in person. It would be like buying a mail order bride from Russia with only going off of a picture instead of properly trying her out at the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FifthElement Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 Outkaster, you beat me to the punch. No one's even PLAYED the board yet or seen it in person. It would be like buying a mail order bride from Russia with only going off of a picture instead of properly trying her out at the store.But if its too heavy and the dimensions are wrong, it doesn't matter what it plays like (like the mail order bride!)And there's bound to be a ridiculously high price attached to the thing - hey, the analogy still works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 It really is unbelievable. The same goes with movies. Things don't stand a chance sometimes with the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted June 10, 2009 Members Share Posted June 10, 2009 Couldn't they have made a synth instead of yet another rompler (which is a truncated version of another rompler) with a few minor improvements (over the previous truncated version of another rompler)? Seems silly, just buy the motif instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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