Members StevieRaveOn Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by Welladjusted i doubt jesus is too pleased with efforts to make him a political issue in general. especially when it's by politicians who give him lip service at best He didn't seem to be too concerned with political issues in general from what I've read. Being careful not to speak for the Man, I'd rather let him speak for Himself, if you check out the Gospels, I remember him not being too interested in being pulled into political things. Not trying to be "preachy" here at all, just something I've noticed between reading the Bible and listening to political-types trying to use Jesus for their end-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the russ Posted May 9, 2006 Members Share Posted May 9, 2006 Originally posted by shredhead666 That's all fine and good, but last I checked you ARE allowed to have an opinion. And Bill O'Reilley contributes a SHAT TON of money to various charities. What have you done? to say what the man does in his personal time is a little bit unrelated to the fact that he is a shill. i would say Pharisees is an excellent word for his ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobrahead1030 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 i like bill's radio show, the tv one is kinda lame IMO he is agenda driven when it comes to some things (which i think are pretty obvious) but for the most part i think he's pretty fair i wouldn't trust his show(s) as my only source of news info, but i enjoy listening to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I actually like Bill. He is a hell of a lot better then al franen or the ragin' cajun. And much better then fat Ted Kennedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Murdoch Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 i would like to stomp Bill O'Reilly in his tiny nuts while wearing a set of ice climbing cleats. the man beats off to his own ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Negative K3 fan Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by 17 Tubes SO who do you listen to or watch? i listen to opeth a lot more seriously, im more oriented on the left side (but thats not hard if youre dutch), i like listening to intelectual/artistical people who can nuance their opinions and put them in the right perspectives.i dont know too many american shows and stuff, call me a whimp but oprah winfrey sometimes impresses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members decode6 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 He's a very smart man. I like his show a lot actually.Gotta give props for a fellow history major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members indespise Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Negative K3 fan haha, ive never had a chance to see msnbc, but i guess its a liberal network? No, it's just not biased to the ultra conservative side like Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Negative K3 fan i listen to opeth a lot more seriously, im more oriented on the left side (but thats not hard if youre dutch), i like listening to intelectual/artistical people who can nuance their opinions and put them in the right perspectives. i dont know too many american shows and stuff, call me a whimp but oprah winfrey sometimes impresses me. Wow.Oprah Winfrey or Bill O'Reilly? And yer slammin O"reilly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whoop Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 bill o'liarly is in decline: his rating are going down, his radio is getting dumped by radio stations weekly and his tv is just a laughing stock as everyone see him and hannity as kneepad republican suckers of satan's cock. plus all he's really known for is sexually harassment of his co-workers and misusing the word "falafel" when he was talking about "loofa" he seems like a kid that got smacked around by his old man and now he's verbally fighting everything so he can feel like a man. unfortunately all he does is invite terrorists to blow the coit tower in SF and accuse madison wisconson of being devil worshippers. oh yeah, one last thing: bill wrote a porn novel, and also put it out as an audiobook where he reads it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkidMarx Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by whoop bill o'liarly is in decline: his rating are going down, his radio is getting dumped by radio stations weekly and his tv is just a laughing stock as everyone see him and hannity as kneepad republican suckers of satan's cock.plus all he's really known for is sexually harassment of his co-workers and misusing the word "falafel" when he was talking about "loofa"he seems like a kid that got smacked around by his old man and now he's verbally fighting everything so he can feel like a man. unfortunately all he does is invite terrorists to blow the coit tower in SF and accuse madison wisconson of being devil worshippers.oh yeah, one last thing: bill wrote a porn novel, and also put it out as an audiobook where he reads it. how's the liberal radio network doing? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shredhead666 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by the russ to say what the man does in his personal time is a little bit unrelated to the fact that he is a shill.i would say Pharisees is an excellent word for his ilk. A shill for who? And the fact that he contributes a crap load of money to charity speaks more for his character than the sensationalist asshole he has to play on TV in order to garner ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tyler N Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by DoubleBarrel I can['t say for sure about the interview as I did not see it.What I can say is, if you want balanced news. Watch Fox and then MSNBC, and make up your own mind. Somewhere between the 2 lies the truth. If you want balanced news don't watch either one of those. Use the net, watch news from other countries, watch Link...... anything but CNN, Fox, NBC etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shredhead666 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Tyler N If you want balanced news don't watch either one of those. Use the net, watch news from other countries, watch Link...... anything but CNN, Fox, NBC etc. +100000000000000!! The BBC usually gets things right with the least amount of spin. They rock, and should be the standard by which all other "news" agencies operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by indespise No, it's just not biased to the ultra conservative side like Fox. it's biased to the liberal side,which is why if you watch that & Fox, you can have both points of view and make up your own mind.Think for Yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Negative K3 fan shure he has, i am using my opinion allowance to call him an asshast. charity has barely anything to do with this discussion. in fact, there's a nice story in the bibly about jesus, rich people and charity... Sure, not Shure....dammit I thought it was a mistake the first time but this is getting ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the russ Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by shredhead666 A shill for who? And the fact that he contributes a crap load of money to charity speaks more for his character than the sensationalist asshole he has to play on TV in order to garner ratings. O'Reilly and the Fox news network as a whole are a shill for religious neoconservatism. some people say "the Right" or the "Republican Party", but Fox's talking points will actually turn on true Right-wingers and traditionally conservative Republicans if they see fit. Much like how this President's ideology is more of a religious neo-conservatism, such is Fox's ideology. I personally know conservative Republicans that are also fed up with Fox because of the endless pandering."Blah blah blah" liberal media, "blah blah CNN". I ask you: where was all this liberal media during the runup to the Iraq invasion?? Where were they during Terri Schaivo debacle? Just because the media doesn't shill for you doesn't make them liberal. Wait, isn't the "liberal media" the same media that helped the Republicans almost run Bill Clinton out of town? Pretty {censored}in liberal of them. "Think for yourself" indeed. I suppose when you think there are only TWO points of view (as someone said earlier), then watching both CNN and Fox gives you a complete picture of what is going on. NOT.Turn off your TV's and read some books, people. And please, get your news from places that AREN'T giant multinational, multi-industry conglomerates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Owens Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 yep...you can always count on FAUX news to spread its horse{censored} as wide as possible...that douche-bag claims to one of the common people..( at 20million a year.)....and is into sexual harrasment of his co workers.. and was caught and bargined out of court on the amount...he's a sad sack of {censored}..Originally posted by charliedango He's an entertainer.He's just doing what they pay him to do and he does it well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Owens yep...you can always count on FAUX news to spread its horse{censored} as wide as possible...that douche-bag claims to one of the common people..( at 20million a year.)....and is into sexual harrasment of his co workers.. and was caught and bargined out of court on the amount...he's a sad sack of {censored}.. you make me sick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DannyM Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Negative K3 fan discuss: people like Bill O'Reilly are today's Pharisees ... and jesus wouldnt be demoloshing temples, but television stations. Bill O'Reilly gets paid to have a take and an opinion. He is no better or worse than those of you who post your opinions on politics, god, britney........well maybe he is since he makes lots of money doing it.If you dont like his take.....change the channel ! Or you can act like a douche on an internet forum and whine about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shredhead666 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by the russ O'Reilly and the Fox news network as a whole are a shill for religious neoconservatism. some people say "the Right" or the "Republican Party", but Fox's talking points will actually turn on true Right-wingers and traditionally conservative Republicans if they see fit. Much like how this President's ideology is more of a religious neo-conservatism, such is Fox's ideology. I personally know conservative Republicans that are also fed up with Fox because of the endless pandering. "Blah blah blah" liberal media, "blah blah CNN". I ask you: where was all this liberal media during the runup to the Iraq invasion?? Where were they during Terri Schaivo debacle? Just because the media doesn't shill for you doesn't make them liberal. Wait, isn't the "liberal media" the same media that helped the Republicans almost run Bill Clinton out of town? Pretty {censored}in liberal of them. "Think for yourself" indeed. I suppose when you think there are only TWO points of view (as someone said earlier), then watching both CNN and Fox gives you a complete picture of what is going on. NOT. Turn off your TV's and read some books, people. And please, get your news from places that AREN'T giant multinational, multi-industry conglomerates. But.... O'Reilley's not a Republican. He's a bit on the conservative side, but certainly not some "neo-con" shill you make him out to be. Do you ever watch his show??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Owens yep...you can always count on FAUX news to spread its horse{censored} as wide as possible...that douche-bag claims to one of the common people.. ( at 20million a year.)....and is into sexual harrasment of his co workers.. and was caught and bargined out of court on the amount... he's a sad sack of {censored}.. Ha, you could say the same about Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the russ Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by shredhead666 But.... O'Reilley's not a Republican. He's a bit on the conservative side, but certainly not some "neo-con" shill you make him out to be. Do you ever watch his show??? go back and read my post. i state that it's independent of Republicanism and is more about religious neoconservatism than it is about a party. and the problem is not only O'Reilly; he was just put there by the network. the network itself is warped. and yes, i'm totally going to disagree with you about him being a shill. the man is a tool of the neocon sect at this moment. should the Republicans return to a more traditional conservatism, or should the Democrats retake the House and the White House, he may change his tune and start being a more moderate parrot, but a parrot nonetheless he'll be.i read O'Reilly's comentary more than I watch his show, although back when I actually used to watch cable news, his show was one of of the one's I'd catch. my TV doesn't get much action these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesaholic Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by DannyM Bill O'Reilly gets paid to have a take and an opinion. He is no better or worse than those of you who post your opinions on politics, god, britney........well maybe he is since he makes lots of money doing it. If you dont like his take.....change the channel ! Or you can act like a douche on an internet forum and whine about him. Ding, Ding, Ding - We have a winner.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Owens Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 hmm..no you really cant... Originally posted by DoubleBarrel Ha, you could say the same about Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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