Members JoshuaLogan Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Most of you will not care about this post, but I have to make it, because it's extremely annoying seeing a bunch of ignorant people talking {censored} about something they know nothing about. All but a few of the people here have any idea what the genre actually is or where it came from. All of the things labeled "emo" and "screamo" currently by main stream media are not even remotely similar. It's just a bunch of ignorant people that spread out words for a new trend, not knowing that these words already existed as names of real genres, which are very dissimilar to all of the {censored}ty mtv shaggy hair boy bands you see. All of those bands are nothing but pop-rock and pop-punk acts. Just as the fake thug & club rap is not real hip hop, all of the pre-teen hot topic nu-metal is not real metal, and the poppy indie dance bands do not even nearly represent indie rock genre as a whole. The fact is the majority of the population is completely ignorant of what the true genre is. It is very much an intense and underground style of music. Basically, the original emo genre in its purest form is dead and has been dead for over 10 years. The screamo genre is similar but is an evolved form of emo which has become much more aggressive, and is really the only true "emo" that exists today. Many of these bands are extremely "underground", very talented, and very aggressive. The music often has a strong thrash influence and with some bands can be so intense and technical that it sometimes borders on grind, but with more emphasis on melody and beauty. Popular modern emo/screamo bands include: OrchidCity of CaterpillarRaeinFuneral DinerEnvySaetiaHot CrossCircle Takes The SquareAmanda WoodwardAmpereThe AssistantYaphet KottoYagePg. 991905The Kodan ArmadaGauge Means NothingIwouldsetmyselfonfireforyouGospelKaospilotNeil PerryKill SadieLa QuieteLife Is A FightThe Kyds Vs ColumbusShe Notes The ChariotsMajority RuleSt. Alban's KidsTakaruCombatwoundedveteranReversal of ManUsurp Synapse and many, many more... Other {censored} I pulled from Wikipedia about origins & history to save time: Emo Stylistic origins: hardcore punk, indie rock Cultural origins: mid 1980s Washington, DC Typical instruments: Guitar - Bass - Drums - Synthesizer Mainstream popularity: Sporadically through the 1980s and '90s, growing in the early 2000s Subgenres: Emocore - Hardcore emo - Emo violence - Screamo - Emotional metalcore Fusion genres: Post-hardcore Regional scenes Midwestern emo Emo is a subgenre of hardcore punk music. Since its inception, emo has come to describe several independent variations, linked loosely but with common ancestry. As such, use of the term (and which musicians should be so classified) has been the subject of much debate. In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe the music of the mid-1980s Washington, DC scene and its associated bands. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the DC scene and some of the regional scenes that spawned from it. The term emo was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and literally emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and, slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s. Screamo is a musical genre which evolved from emo, more specifically hardcore emo in the early 1990s. Characteristic of the genre are hardcore screaming vocals and fast, harmonized guitars. Breakdowns in screamo songs are often slower and more melodic than in other genres, less of a "beatdown" and more an opportunity for introspection (and rest for the musicians). Other than that, it is fairly hard to classify (particularly since the rule about screaming vocals is bent fairly often). It is sometimes also mistakenly referred to as emo violence, which is closely related (although bands in both genres borrow ideas from each other). Lyrically, screamo topics are often times introspective, although it is not uncommon to see a screamo band with political lyrics. History In California in the early 1990s, Gravity Records from San Diego released many defining records of this style. Significant Emo bands from this time include Heroin, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. In the New York/New Jersey era, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Rye Coalition and Rorschach were feeling the same impulse. The labels Gern Blandsten Records and Troubleman Records released many of the influential records from that region and era. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Many "Screamo" bands have broken up but in the late 90s and early 2000s, another wave of Screamo bands began. But even then, many of these new bands have already broken up. These include bands such as the highly influential Saetia, Envy, Pg. 99, Orchid, and City of Caterpillar. Despite how short-lived most recent screamo bands are, the underground screamo scene is still very large and is thriving throughout Europe and the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lackingimpact Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 pay no attention tonemeister - he's a douchebag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members siberiankiss Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Promise Ring, Jets to Brazil=emo all that {censored} you listed......huh? Circle takes the square is like tech metal. Youre {censored}ing stupid. I hate you. Take your pretentious "I can name a bunch of bands youve never heard of" ass and throw it in a woodchipper. Glassjaw, hopesfall, thursday=screamo. Everything else? Nadir of a washed out scene. Kinda like early 90s glam rock. Thats all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Songman68 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Just got finished listening to some Funeral Diner, boy what a mistake to listen to that {censored}. http://www.myspace.com/funeraldiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dimebag666 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hmm he has a point about people's musical ignorance. I had someone once call slayer emo i mean wtf. But he was one of those dumbasses whos never heard about any band outside of mainstream radio. One of the Kids in my year level at school tight pants, that gay fringe hair cut etc call himself emo and i don't think he would have heard of any of those bands.... he wears atreyu shirts n {censored}. But who really cares. emos, teenies, pop punks or whatever the {censored} they are theyre annoying and thats all i really need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Originally posted by Dimebag666 But who really cares. emos, teenies, pop punks or whatever the {censored} they are theyre annoying and thats all i really need to know. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRPool Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Speaking of EMO, does anyone remember this from earlier this year? It seems appropriate to re-post it at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chudanez Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Originally posted by DRPool Speaking of EMO, does anyone remember this from earlier this year? It seems appropriate to re-post it at this time. "Beatdown" is just about the most emo word i think i know... Didn't read the first post. Too many words on the subject of emos so i didn't bother. Basically, if they've got a gay fringe, wear nothing but black, tight trousers or really baggy ones around their knees showing their boxers with full bloody {censored} stains, then i consider them emo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kuato Lives Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Originally posted by Tonemeister69 lol You are a {censored}ing idiot. Thank you for making this thread. It's good to know that some people are somewhat well versed. Originally posted by siberiankiss Glassjaw, hopesfall, thursday=screamo. You have got to be kidding me. While some of the bands he listed were a little less off kilter of the Emo genre, and technically the first bands he listed would be considered "Screamo", he did posts bands that progressed on the genre and also listed previous Emo pioneers. Shut your {censored}ing yap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc Roy Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Emo is actually considered music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members siberiankiss Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Education on Emo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc Roy Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 That's quite a history lesson, especially for music no one gives a {censored} about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 I've never heard of a single one of those bands before, so I'll assume most of them are worthless hipster dreck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkCide Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 It's always amusing to see someone mention 200 bands which nobody has ever heard of and rant about a mediocre music genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strapping_Young_Lad Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 why people get so uptight about genres? take it easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 No one cares about emo because it's the lamest form of "music" ever created, and one of the gayest fads ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nosebleed Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Originally posted by Strapping_Young_Lad why people get so uptight about genres?take it easy Exactly.btw, there are some good bands on that list. City of Caterpillar, Hot Cross and Funeral Diner are some of my favorites.But I like Mineral and Refused even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lackingimpact Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 wow, this thread has turned into an ignorant bash fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Originally posted by lackingimpact wow, this thread has turned into an ignorant bash fest. What else would you expect, it's about emo music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Before you make a thread like this, where you talk as though you are an authority on a subject, it may be important to actually list some sources, your crudentials, and why you feel you can represent yourself as a scholar of music history. Otherwise, you're just spewing off opiniated information as though it were fact. Wikipedia is hardly a valid source for accurate information. It is a very helpful source, but not a valid one when dealing with matters such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members love_o_rock Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 Never heard of one of those bands. Never plan on listening to them, or emo for that matter. Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pir Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 I would probably add shotmaker to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyhuck_finn Posted September 10, 2006 Members Share Posted September 10, 2006 kill the emos!!!! kill the emos!!!! WAIT, they want to die??? LET THEM LIVE!!! i'm going to admit it right now, i'm racist toward emos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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