Members NashSG Posted September 14, 2006 Members Share Posted September 14, 2006 People should keep in mind that this article is from Maximum Rock and Roll from around 1994. I know it was from 94, as I had the issue and it came out around the time Cobain off'ed himself and the cover had some guy with a 45 revolver in his mouth with the title "Some of Your Friends May Already be Fxxcked". I think it is fair to say that things have changed quite a bit since that time. Certain aspects are still valid, but the business environment for selling records/cd's is really different. After Nirvana, major labels bought up TONS of bands, many of which I don't know what they were smokin' to think they could recoup those fat signing checks. Not to say that all of these band's music was bad, but did Virgin really think it could make big bucks with Royal Trux or whateve label signed someone like Tad? Somebody thought so...and dropped some big cash. The funny thing is how many bands back then got snapped up by a major and it was like a death kiss, either their existing fan abandoning them or their majors debut was terrible. I think it is much easier for an indie band to get promotion or distribution now with the internet than it was in the early 90s. I don't think you really even have to consider being on a major label or if you have a track record selling records on an indie, you can get terms that are much more favorable than beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackwater Posted September 14, 2006 Members Share Posted September 14, 2006 {censored} the money, those guys got a nice rig out if it! {censored} I would take a killer tour on a bus, poon, stellar recording, and gear over cash any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PintoMusic Posted September 14, 2006 Members Share Posted September 14, 2006 Originally posted by NashSG After Nirvana, major labels bought up TONS of bands, many of which I don't know what they were smokin' to think they could recoup those fat signing checks. I met an lawyer who has worked with the revolving door of A&R guys in North America. He had told me that back in the 90's, if he had phone a label to check out a band, they'd sometimes sign the band without even seeing a showcase. It must've been a death-kiss for everyone involved - artists, labels and nearly the industry itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6AM Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 This article is pretty old, but Steve Albini is great. Can't record? Tell that Nirvana, Cheap Trick, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, The Pixies, PJ Harvey, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charliedango Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Albini is an ass, but I suppose he can afford to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefchr Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Originally posted by blargh Yeah, {censored} major labels, record at Steve Albini's studio so he can ruin your album with awful drum sounds and bad mixing I think you mean amzing drum sound, I havent heard anyone get a better sound. The only complaint I could see about his mix's is that the vocals are quite low, but I usually like them like that anyway.so this is for you:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefchr Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Owens whoopie..minus $75K in taxes..split 3 ways whats left is $60K..when you make $60K and your record company makes 3 million..i say {censored} that..also didnt steve mix nevermind / w/ nirvana.?as well as some of the soundgarden and AIC.?he was also involved in subpop i think as well. he enginneered in utero, someone else did some more mixing after cause Kurt didnt like the way the vocals sounded on some songs. He didnt do anything with AIC or soundgarden at least that I know of. He recorded alot of the touch and go bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danbronson Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Originally posted by lefchr I think you mean amzing drum sound, I havent heard anyone get a better sound. The only complaint I could see about his mix's is that the vocals are quite low, but I usually like them like that anyway. so this is for you:rolleyes: :rolleyes: his vocals are always a bit low and i love it. he understands that REAL music enthusiasts are listening to the whole band, not just the lead singer.+1 on the benefits of going indie though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Analog tape and jumpsuits.... Albini is cool. He was going to produce the new Doors album, but they went with Ken Scott instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Originally posted by MRscratch your kidding right???i would love to record at the electric. 600$ a day gets you in plus steve. who would you rather have then?? brenden o brienand a few others come to mind, but i dont think its 600 a day!! I'd rather record it myself than have him {censored} my album up. I've never heard anything well-recorded from him, the Pixies albums sound like garbage, he ruined High On Fire's cd with weak ass drums and a bad mix, the Godspeed You Black Emperor albums sound flat and undynamic compared to better-done recordings, and I've heard the Failure guys didn't like how their first album sounds, etc etc. With Albini, you get what you pay for. I've never understood the "less is more" recording approach... if your music suffers from good recording, it's not good music. I know he has lots of fanboys, but I think he sucks, and I've listened to enough of his stuff through quality speakers to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 This is from 94, at the height of CD sales. Now, sales are down, but increased revenue streams from ringtones, legal downloads, etc. have changed the industry. The key is to keep as many rights as you can, then use THOSE to make your money. No artist makes money off the CDs. Consider it a loss leader to sell all the other stuff. Moby made his money licensing songs for use in commercials, indie bands make money off the merch, artists write songs for movies, WWF themes, all sorts of stuff. OK Go! has made all their videos themselves and uploaded them to Youtube for free. Doing things intelligently and cost effectively is the key - a far cry from the excesses of the 70's and 80's. Major labels have had to strip down as well, as they see talented bands starting their own labels, going indie, and even doing all their own marketing over teh intarwebs. Just be smart,and know what you are doing, and you'll make out fine. Learn how to do as much as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bass_n_drums Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Originally posted by DeathMonkey This is from 94, at the height of CD sales. Now, sales are down, but increased revenue streams from ringtones, legal downloads, etc. have changed the industry.The key is to keep as many rights as you can, then use THOSE to make your money. No artist makes money off the CDs. Consider it a loss leader to sell all the other stuff. Moby made his money licensing songs for use in commercials, indie bands make money off the merch, artists write songs for movies, WWF themes, all sorts of stuff.OK Go! has made all their videos themselves and uploaded them to Youtube for free. Doing things intelligently and cost effectively is the key - a far cry from the excesses of the 70's and 80's. Major labels have had to strip down as well, as they see talented bands starting their own labels, going indie, and even doing all their own marketing over teh intarwebs. Just be smart,and know what you are doing, and you'll make out fine. Learn how to do as much as you can. spokened like a true professional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 496dart Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 "45 revolver in his mouth "thought it was a shotgun? --it would have to be a very old gun to be a "revolver" in 45 caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 496dart Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Oh--and Deathmonkey is right on. Dont forget the merch ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheDarxide Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Reminds me of Courtney Love's rant:http://www.clubnashville.com/courtney.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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