Members Bernard Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 [YOUTUBE]QNYsaAHsBeU[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members ChristianRock Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 I disagree that multi-timbrality is only for programming and not for playing live. I always play and record my synths live, I don't use a sequencer at all. 2 or even 4-part multi-timbral is useful for live playing. I use my SH-201 in split or layer mode quite a bit, and that alone (and the fact that I have 49 keys) makes me not have any GAS for this Novation at all. Now, a Supernova II keyboard, that'd be a different story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nillerbabs Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 CR, I'm so with you on this one - playing synths in anything more complex than jazz I need 2 part multitimbrality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members liliththekitten Posted November 9, 2010 Members Share Posted November 9, 2010 love the way it sounds, I could give a toss about multimbrality. only non-rompler synths I owned that had it were the MicroKorg and MS2000, it was nice for some trippy patches. oh yeah, my Korg 707 has it, though havent used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted November 9, 2010 Members Share Posted November 9, 2010 [YOUTUBE]Ugk__hO2Cbw[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 This guy is probably sick of doing these videos by now =o] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members acidduck Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 He's now just known as "Ultranova Guy" Hey Ultranova Guy, play us a song on your Ultranova, Ultranova Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kilon Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 CR, I'm so with you on this one - playing synths in anything more complex than jazz I need 2 part multitimbrality. That kills it for me too. 2 multitimbrality is bellow minimum for my needs , 4 is more like with a general preference to 16. Also it really sad that there is no fm anywhere. Overall its a lower speced than my blofeld and blofeld keyboard, but still sounds good the VST editor and the touch knobs modulation looks very nice. But definetely not my thing. I was thinking of getting gaia at some point, but I think that I will better off, with my new macbook air , Camel Audio Vst and the remote sl 37. I have keeping remote 37 sl closed inside its box for too long, I think it will make a great music mobility solution with the above two . I can finally take my Alchemy anywhere I want. By the way this beauty is an automap controller as well, however Novation, has not clarified if the automap software comes on board this synth or you have to pay for it extra. Another advantage is that it is an audio interface. So I think it certainly worth its price and it will be successful for novation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suilebhain Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Who needs multitimbral ability when you have MIDI? I can stack as many sounds as I want by chaining my Blofeld and Wavestation and Fusion to whatever I play. Sure, if you only have ONE SYNTH and NO modules, then multitimbral ability is essential, but how many here only use ONE SYNTH and NO modules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Who needs multitimbral ability when you have MIDI? So, I guess you don't play live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kilon Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Who needs multitimbral ability when you have MIDI?I can stack as many sounds as I want by chaining my Blofeld and Wavestation and Fusion to whatever I play.Sure, if you only have ONE SYNTH and NO modules, then multitimbral ability is essential, but how many here only use ONE SYNTH and NO modules? You are telling me its not stupid to have a single timbre and 18 polyphony ? Are you are an Alien with 18 fingers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Who needs multitimbral ability when you have MIDI? HA HA HA That's why I can have VIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16 channels of full VIRUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted November 11, 2010 Members Share Posted November 11, 2010 can this thing split? I can't remembers and I'm too lazy to look.... Even my AX-60 can do that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acidduck Posted November 11, 2010 Members Share Posted November 11, 2010 The X-Station could do a split in controller mode (so you can send two different halves of the keyboard to different MIDI channels). I haven't read anywhere about this being able to do the splits though. The feature was added as an update to the X-Station OS, so maybe if enough people want it, Novation might implement. Of course it won't do a split with it's own synth engine no matter what though - damn single timbrality. Seems the single timbrality limitation is the main deal breaker for a lot of people. Novation take note! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thalamus Posted November 12, 2010 Members Share Posted November 12, 2010 What I like most about it is that the editor can run as a plugin in a DAW like a Virus TI. But for me to want to spend on a hardware synth, it's gotta have front panel knobs for fast, immediate hands-on controls, like Gaia but not as ugly as all newer Roland gear tend to be. Actually the Ultranova is kinda ugly too coz I'm kinda superficial like that. I don't mind the paint job so much but the choice of blue LEDs is bleh. I find blue LEDs on equipment to be way too distracting for some reason. I'm sure it sounds good though. And the touch sensitive knobs are a nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members psionic11 Posted November 13, 2010 Members Share Posted November 13, 2010 The X-Station could do a split in controller mode (so you can send two different halves of the keyboard to different MIDI channels). I haven't read anywhere about this being able to do the splits though. The feature was added as an update to the X-Station OS, so maybe if enough people want it, Novation might implement. Of course it won't do a split with it's own synth engine no matter what though - damn single timbrality. Seems the single timbrality limitation is the main deal breaker for a lot of people. Novation take note! Can you explain how to split the X-station's keyboard? I'd appreciate it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acidduck Posted November 15, 2010 Members Share Posted November 15, 2010 Hi psionic11, You need to ensure you have the latest firmware upgrade installed (download from Novation). I think the latest version is 3.0.03. As I mentioned, you can only do a split in controller mode... so you can't split with the x-stations own synth engine. Novation call keyboard splits Zones 1. Put the x-station in controller mode (you toggle this with the play button of course) 2. Press the 'Global' button TWICE. You should see Keyboard Zones displayed 3. Turn the data wheel to turn on Keyboard Zones 4. Press the Up Page arrow twice. The X-Station lets you set up 4 different zones. Each zone can use a different MIDI port, channel and velocity curve. So select the zone number which you want to setup, then move the cursor across to each option. Choose which MIDI out you want to use (USB or MIDI ports 1 or 2, or any combination of the three), choose the Channel to be transmitted on, and finally the velocity curve (to adjust touch sensitivity for this zone) 5. Press the Page Up arrow to move to the next screen. Select the zone to edit again, cursor to the Low setting, and press a key on the keyboard to set the lowest note of the range. Cursor to the Hi option and press the highest note for this range on the keyboard. Cursor across to Trn to set the transpose for this range. 6. Press the Page up arrow once more, and you can set whether or not After touch, pitch modulation and Mod wheel have any effect on this zone. 7. Press Write to save your settings. As you can see, it not only lets you set up zones, it gives you LOTS of options. Probably one of the more powerful keyboard splits I have seen :-) Finally, we were adjusting the Global settings... you can also modify znoes per template by pressing the Template Common button twice, and following the same guides as for setting up global zones. I hope this helps you out! The good old X-Station really isn't such a bad controller! I hope the Ultranova can impress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members psionic11 Posted November 15, 2010 Members Share Posted November 15, 2010 Acidduck, thank you much for that! Those are some pretty sweet options... --choices of where to route each zone (USB, or either/both X-station's MIDI OUT 1 or 2)... -- individual velocity curves (I'm thinking bass light velocity to tame the knock/squelch on an acid pluck type, no velocity for organ/pad types, etc)...-- turn off MOD options for some zones (no sustain for bass notes, no pitch wheel for pads, etc)-- multiple template options for zone splits, so each softsynth/hardware rack can have its own custome zone setups remembered for it Since the X-station has 2 separate MIDI OUTS, obviously some pre-planning went into its controller functionality. I don't recall seeing this in the manual, so kudos to you for bringing up a great hidden feature. Question: on the Zone Pitch/Mod page, I take it the choices of Zone or Normal allows you to override whether to toggle MODs for each zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suilebhain Posted November 15, 2010 Members Share Posted November 15, 2010 So, I guess you don't play live. Currently, no, but even if I did I would use my system because what I don't use live is a sequencer. The other point I was making is that most folk have modules that provide multitimbral capabilities, like Metro's Virus, so does the keyboard need to be multi as well? You could set all of your zoning/layering on the module. It really comes down to different styles of interpretation, I would say. If I am playing a line and want a huge pile of stuff to swell in underneath, I would just crank up the module on a mixer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acidduck Posted November 17, 2010 Members Share Posted November 17, 2010 You are right... Normal uses the settings for the pitch/mod from the channel and MIDI port settings, and Zones will use the settings for the zone instead. Glad to be of assistance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Purity_Control Posted November 17, 2010 Members Share Posted November 17, 2010 You are telling me its not stupid to have a single timbre and 18 polyphony ? Are you are an Alien with 18 fingers ? That can get eaten up pretty quickly as soon as you use a sustain pedal, any quite fast chromatic run probably would take the larger part out of it just with one hand. Even if you're just playing chords on the other hand, unless you play with no release or you don't mind the last one sucking out, you need enough polyphony to let the previous chord taper off too. Depending on what you play that may or may not be an issue, but it will be for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Chando Posted November 22, 2010 Members Share Posted November 22, 2010 some lousy presets there... but don't they all Romplers are the only synths IMO that ever have a least a handful of decent presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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