Members Mood Bender Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by rawhedrex Gimme a break - show me where i suggested should take {censored} based on ones experience? - go ahead please. check his myspace link in his sig - for the second time now. I'll cut you some slack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rawhedrex Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by Mood Bender I'll cut you some slack... questioning someones credentials and taking {censored} from them are different. Try again.Have a lovely day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by rawhedrex My pleasure - hope it works out for you.and it works really nicely with DFH samples. Crud, $289 for the pro version! It may be a while before I buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rawhedrex Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by Bob Savage Crud, $289 for the pro version! It may be a while before I buy it. yeah - it's harsh i know - you do get a free 4 gig sound library expansion for it now aswell though - it's money well spent. I had a band i produced buy it for me as payment for some work i did for them a few years back - fixed their drum problem and sorted me out also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Bob, check out www.gearslutz.com for some cool ideas about drums. It seems a lot pf producers either take the performance and replace the sounds, or layer samples with them... some cool ideas throughout the forum.And for the record, I make FAR more money with my recording/studio skills than I do with my guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by rawhedrex I had a band i produced buy it for me as payment for some work i did for them a few years back - fixed their drum problem and sorted me out also! I love those kind of jobs. Originally posted by DeathMonkey Bob, check out www.gearslutz.com for some cool ideas about drums. It seems a lot pf producers either take the performance and replace the sounds, or layer samples with them... some cool ideas throughout the forum. I've heard about that site for eons now, but never spent time going through it. I think it's time, thanks mang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rawhedrex Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by DeathMonkey Bob, check out www.gearslutz.com for some cool ideas about drums. It seems a lot pf producers either take the performance and replace the sounds, or layer samples with them... some cool ideas throughout the forum. And for the record, I make FAR more money with my recording/studio skills than I do with my guitar. some of the guys on that forum are incredibly switched on - good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nwright Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 utilizing samples blended with or completely in place of recorded tones is more commonplace than not, at least in metal, IMO. Not the other way around. It's also common to sample the actual kit being recorded and then blend in those clean samples into the live recorded signal to cut down on bleed and other issues. It's great technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rawhedrex Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by nwright utilizing samples blended with or completely in place of recorded tones is more commonplace than not, at least in metal, IMO. Not the other way around. yes - but very very rarely for the entire kit - or even most of it, most people seem to strive to trigger as little as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nwright Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by rawhedrex yes - but very very rarely for the entire kit - or even most of it, most people seem to strive to trigger as little as possible. As far as modern metal goes, I'd disagree. Even those who say they don't, I'd bet they do. And, I'm not saying it as a putdown, as I love modern metal production. Blending sampled tones with live tones is an art, and whatever makes them sound the best is what matters to me. But, I disagree with your assertion. For other types of music, I really have no clue, but metal...yeah, samples are as commonplace as mics are these days. IMHO, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rawhedrex Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by nwright As far as modern metal goes, I'd disagree. Even those who say they don't, I'd bet they do. And, I'm not saying it as a putdown, as I love modern metal production. Blending sampled tones with live tones is an art, and whatever makes them sound the best is what matters to me. But, I disagree with your assertion. For other types of music, I really have no clue, but metal...yeah, samples are as commonplace as mics are these days. IMHO, of course. I produce metal - i can assure you it's not the case - you hear a few sampled drums - but most of it isn't - you can even check out the behemoth vid a guy posted - only the kicks are triggered. do you realise how insane it is to trigger overheads? thats 50 percent of the kit right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Chops, or song writing ability, rather, is infinitely more important to me.I assume this is in reference to the way people reply to certain clips that do not seem particularly worthwhile. Usually, it's pretty easy to tell why people say what they do when you may be totally lost about what the big deal is, and it's because something in their sigs all match...As much as I am interested in recording, quite frankly, I don't give a {censored} if it sounds like {censored} so long as the music is good. Some of my favorite stuff sounds god awful, but I wouldn't have it any other way.And for the record, I get really tired of hearing the same Killswitch Engage clip here. Originally posted by nwright As far as modern metal goes, I'd disagree. Even those who say they don't, I'd bet they do. And, I'm not saying it as a putdown, as I love modern metal production. Blending sampled tones with live tones is an art, and whatever makes them sound the best is what matters to me. But, I disagree with your assertion. For other types of music, I really have no clue, but metal...yeah, samples are as commonplace as mics are these days. IMHO, of course. I don't think that's quite the case. The really blasty/grindy bands will most definitely use triggers for the bass drum, and sometimes the snare, but beyond that I think it's really pushing it to say that the majority use samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mood Bender Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by rawhedrex questioning someones credentials and taking {censored} from them are different. Try again. Have a lovely day. Okay dude, lighten up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhilBelanger Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 In my case, one feeds the other. I get better at playing, try to capture it as best as possbile.Lather, rinse and repeat It's a great hobby. I wish I could step into a real studio and learn some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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