Members Aanalogaddict Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've stolen about 95% of what I do on the Hammond from these cats; YlxxmNP2MKw [YOUTUBE]DgYO0ghKL4s[/YOUTUBE] ...and I'd love to steal from this guy; [YOUTUBE]gisMYLOkJZY[/YOUTUBE] and this gal; [YOUTUBE]4JkhpxzLIFQ[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aanalogaddict Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 Rich Tolbert has some pretty good chops too; [YOUTUBE]rRBCcvYIr34[/YOUTUBE] And let's not forget the lord of the organ; [YOUTUBE]ILDxii_1H-g[/YOUTUBE] or "the Beast" who plays so hard he regularly breaks Hammond keys... [YOUTUBE]hkdth23qZgE[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 Ethel Smith FTW!!! She was a great player with excellent showmanship. And, I'm a real sucker for a sharp dressed gal (I love how she pumps out the bass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 Here's my favorite trick to do with the HTHN...I'll jab a folded piece of paper or a spare length of audio cable in between the keys to hold the key down, then, while the note is still going on, walk away from the organ, walk around the stage, exchange high-fives with band members (or if it's on a low stage, high-fives with members of the audience, then a few bars later, walk back to the organ, remove what's jabbing the key down, and finish my solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yorgatron Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 Here's my favorite trick to do with the HTHN...I'll jab a folded piece of paper or a spare length of audio cable in between the keys to hold the key down, then, while the note is still going on, walk away from the organ, walk around the stage, exchange high-fives with band members (or if it's on a low stage, high-fives with members of the audience, then a few bars later, walk back to the organ, remove what's jabbing the key down, and finish my solo I'm stealing that,hope you don't mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acidolem Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 Brian's great, I interviewed him a few years ago. Nice dude,Link below. http://www.melodicas.com/jazz_keyboard_interviews.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tucktronix Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 Here's my favorite trick to do with the HTHN...I'll jab a folded piece of paper or a spare length of audio cable in between the keys to hold the key down, then, while the note is still going on, walk away from the organ, walk around the stage, exchange high-fives with band members (or if it's on a low stage, high-fives with members of the audience, then a few bars later, walk back to the organ, remove what's jabbing the key down, and finish my solo Normally, I would use the pinky of my right hand to hold down a key in the upper octave and solo with the rest of the fingers of my right hand and my left hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted October 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 For instance, I didn't know Mr. Auger never used a Leslie. He does indeed wring much expression from the scanner. I think he could make use of a mod I'm going to try: variable vibrato/chorus. Anyone else have that? Yes, I installed a pot on the cheekblock of my '58 for this. It's a fairly easy mod - you need to get inside the vibrato switch and install a resistor, plus bring wires out to the pot. Turning the intensity of the C-1 way down is kind of neat effect - a gentle shimmer reminiscent of a chorus generator on a BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 Yes, I installed a pot on the cheekblock of my '58 for this. It's a fairly easy mod - you need to get inside the vibrato switch and install a resistor, plus bring wires out to the pot. Turning the intensity of the C-1 way down is kind of neat effect - a gentle shimmer reminiscent of a chorus generator on a BC. Of course you have it! I just got a '74 A-105 that looks practically new, inside & out (even all new tubes!). However, the power xformer in the preamp is shot. I'm planning to replace all the 'lytics & whatever resistors have drifted. I would greatly appreciate any and all advice that more experienced 'Hamsters" care to offer. A list of all the 'good' mods would be helpful, as well as procedures describing rebuilding & rebiasing the preamp & amps. I searched the Hamtech archives, but the info wasn't readily forthcoming. Interesting tidbit: Hamtech forumites don't have GAS, they have HAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 I searched the Hamtech archives, but the info wasn't readily forthcoming. yeah, well there are eleventy million posts in there. Indeed, all of the information you seek is there... ...but you will probably have to participate in real time in order to get help. My advice is of course quite simple...get another AO-28. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paolo Di Nicolantonio Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 Very cool! These are all great Hammond players. I've played Markyboard's 1957 B-3 with Leslie 147 recently and gotten an acute case of H.A.S. - Why, why, why did I sell my C-3 some years ago? I am thinking of getting an XK-3c... Sure, the sound of the original is phenomenal, but I'm not sure I want to go back at having a mega-heavy organ in the house. Right now, I make do with two synths on top of each other, with organ patches. When I had the C-3, I was fond of Jimmy Smith-style walking bass lines with the left hand on the lower manual, 838000000, and 888000000 c3 chorus, soft 3rd percussion fast release on the upper manual. This is a pic of the C-3 I used to have: Like Brian Auger, I didn't have a Leslie. I used a Hammond's own PR-40. and these are a few examples I had recorded the day before I sold it: http://www.synthmania.com/Hammond%20C-3/Audio/Hammond%20C-3%20examples%20-%20Back%20At%20The%20Chicken%20Shack.mp3 http://www.synthmania.com/Hammond%20C-3/Audio/Hammond%20C-3%20examples%20-%20various%20jazzy.mp3 http://www.synthmania.com/Hammond%20C-3/Audio/Hammond%20C-3%20examples%20-%20various,%20blues,%20reggae,%20church.mp3 The question for the XK-3/XK-3c owners: can I get these tones with it? - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 yeah, well there are eleventy million posts in there. Indeed, all of the information you seek is there... It's apparent, then, that I fail at search term selection. ...but you will probably have to participate in real time in order to get help. I'll do that, but I only joined the list a few days ago, and there's a 2 week troll filter delay before nubs can post. My advice is of course quite simple...get another AO-28. With your kind permission, I'll begin the pestering with you. Am I correct in assuming the last A0-28 left the plant around 1974? If so, and I get another one, it's going to have age issues, unless it's been rebuilt. Why not just rebuild the one I have? It's well within the scope of my abilities, I'll know it's right, and I can probably bring it in for less than one Benjamin, including the transformer. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 Yes, if you think that you can handle rebuilding an AO-28 then you should do it, because that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 Yes, if you think that you can handle rebuilding an AO-28 then you should do it, because that would be great. I have the utmost confidence, especially if I can occasionally pester such prolific repositories of knowledge such as yourself. Have any favorite mods? Some of the ones I want to try are: Variable chorus, percussion volume drop fix, changing the percussion keying source, some sort of variable distortion, adding an effects loop, adding an EQ, and sometime down the road adding MIDI out to the pedals (I like string bass) or MIDI the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 percussion volume drop fix. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I have a 2001 Toyota Camry. It's green. I used to have the most awesome pickup truck. It was a 1994 Toyota pickup, 5-speed, two wheel drive. Boy it was long and black and...you know what I mean...no maybe you all don't know I mean. But anyway, It was really nothing like a 1968 Camero, but it did have the 22re fuel injected 4 cylinder engine. BTW, this thread has been Hamjacked . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 If it ain't broke don't fix it. But, it is broke! But, mark my words, every penny saved on repairs goes towards the absolutely necessary Leslie. Being the frugal fart that I am, I get the warm fuzzy from knowing that I can has one of the last tonewheel consoles ever made, for less than a top of the line Casio WK-XXX. Yeah, I'll have to work on it, but I've been doing stuff like this for a living for 33 years. But, yeah, the percussion thing will probably be a back burner project. My first car was a '65 LeMans. I drove it till the wheels fell off (literally). I still have the crossed checkered flag hood ornament! I've purchased only 1 new car in my life; frugal am I... But, back to organ content, lest we be absorbed into the Dude thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted October 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 There is danger in rebuilding preamps and recapping tone generators. You WILL end up with a different tone when you are done. It may be better, but it may be worse. My favorite Hammonds are the late 50's ones, which have a natural somewhat darker sound compared to the red capped mid 60's one, and the totally inconsistent 70s ones. When you recap, you need caps that are carefully matched and very close to their stated value - really each one needs to be tested on a capacitance meter. I have owned 4 Hammonds, and the two least great sounding ones are the ones that have been rebuilt. One has a harsh midrange that prevents me from pulling full drawbars, and the other sounds OK but not great. I would replace your broken transformer and then check things out - it may sound fabulous. Replace the main filter caps if you must, but listen to it before going further. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 But, it is broke! perc volume drop does not qualify as 'broke'. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted October 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 Percussion volume drop can be eliminated in 5 minutes with a simple jumper, without disassembling anything. Not much need to back burner it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Support Guy Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 heard a Hammond do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClavAnother Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted October 28, 2009 Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 There is danger in rebuilding preamps and recapping tone generators.You WILL end up with a different tone when you are done. It may be better, but it may be worse.My favorite Hammonds are the late 50's ones, which have a natural somewhat darker sound compared to the red capped mid 60's one, and the totally inconsistent 70s ones.When you recap, you need caps that are carefully matched and very close to their stated value - really each one needs to be tested on a capacitance meter.I have owned 4 Hammonds, and the two least great sounding ones are the ones that have been rebuilt. One has a harsh midrange that prevents me from pulling full drawbars, and the other sounds OK but not great.I would replace your broken transformer and then check things out - it may sound fabulous. Replace the main filter caps if you must, but listen to it before going further.Just my 2 cents. Moe I hear a lot of guys say this about the older Hammonds. Also the new ones sound brighter and it is task to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted October 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2009 To get back to performance techniques: Check out this Medeski drawbar fu: [YOUTUBE]AbuP-EsWc-E[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members normhart Posted October 29, 2009 Members Share Posted October 29, 2009 How about the one where you hold the 'C' (Cancel) key down and 'play' the presets for some modulation type effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted October 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2009 How about the one where you hold the 'C' (Cancel) key down and 'play' the presets for some modulation type effects. Yep, that's another good one. Besides timbre changes switching between presets, you can do stuttering rhythmic things. I've played the staccato organ part from "Won't Get Fooled Again" using this technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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