Members Guitarted Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Urban Legend my ass. That is bull{censored}. I have pulled the chassis's and they are different. The circuit boards have differnet revisions printed right on them. Different transformers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tetaJ Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Urban Legend my ass. That is bull{censored}. I have pulled the chassis's and they are different. The circuit boards have differnet revisions printed right on them. Different transformers. Guitarded, mine were the same, and i had one of the first 50 made, so explain that to me.I also had a 1999 model, one of the "new" ones and it was the same, that is why i called MEsa in the first place.Who knows, maybe the sold you a Peavey in a Mesa Chassis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 They're not lying.. they're just not telling you the facts. We know this much: Rectos used different Revisions through-out the course Rectos used completely different transformers in the first 1300 or so. 1992 components aren't sold anymore (Ever notice pedal builders get hot over certain hard to find parts?) From the outside they look all the same... but the important details that people look for are difference. Like I said before.. it isn't $1000 tone difference IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tetaJ Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 and by the way, asking 1800 USD????? Not even my beloved pre 100 made Tremoverb(circa 1992-3?)went for that amount of money man AND LET ME TELL YOU: The Mighty Tremoverb {censored}s where any other recto eats and yes they had revisions, it is not that there was a batch pre 500 and post 500 that had completely diff sounds. That is what i am saying, so it is super-hyped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 i smell BS in that article. the guy said "it's been 3 channel triple recs for 15 years..." BULL{censored}!!! THOSE {censored}TY 3 CHANNEL AMPS DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL THE EARLY '00'S!!! sorry. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dale B. Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 I had #246. It was the C board revision and was made in early May of '92. The main things I noticed were differences in clarity. Also, the tone stayed chunky if you backed down off of the Gain Knob in Modern/Red. The clean channel wasn't all that great. I didn't bother with the Channel Cloning all that much because I didn't care for it. RF1C is the closest to the SLO circuit. The Power Tranny in #246 wasn't dishing out the same amount of juice as some of the 93's and 95's I've owned. It was putting about 445 vdc on the plates (6L6GC's) and the newer ones were putting about 465 vdc on the plates. Other than that, 246 had a touch more of a juicier feel than the others. It wasn't as hard to the touch. It definitely had a brighter character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dale B. Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Other than that, I don't know what makes them so special. I wouldn't pay $2500.00 for one. That's for sure. I bought mine for $1250.00 and sold it for $1600.00 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 That's great stuff Dale B. I'm glad you took the time to check some spec to see what makes 1992 rects diff than modern rectos. I had Rev C #64. It was similiar to your description of #246. A pre1000 recto sold for $1870 shipped a few weeks ago off ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dale B. Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 That's great stuff Dale B. I'm glad you took the time to check some spec to see what makes 1992 rects diff than modern rectos. I had Rev C #64. It was similiar to your description of #246. A pre1000 recto sold for $1870 shipped a few weeks ago off ebay. Was it a Blackface/Chrome chassis? Those usually fetch a lot more because of the cosmetics. 246 has the regular Recto cosmetics. They're nice amps and I really like them compared to the newer ones. I really like all of the two channel Duals and Triples. I have a 3 channel Triple right now and would love to get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Was it a Blackface/Chrome chassis? Those usually fetch a lot more because of the cosmetics. 246 has the regular Recto cosmetics. They're nice amps and I really like them compared to the newer ones. I really like all of the two channel Duals and Triples. I have a 3 channel Triple right now and would love to get rid of it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320172412716&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011I think it belongs to a member on here. I'm thinking about trading my 1999 2ch for a 3ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kung-Fool Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 LOL! So you're spreading your BS and mis-information here as well. At least your consistent. For anyone that would like to know what's going on here, this guy came to the Boogie Board and tried to spread a bunch of BS hype and mis-information thinking he could drive up the price of the amp he's selling. The problem is the people there know what they're talking about and he doesn't. There's quite a few gems over there but this is probably the best where he gets owned multiple times yet continues on with his bull{censored}.....http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=18810&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 **EDITED This message was Left blank, don't feed the trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dropped_2_C Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 There are multiple revisions of the Dual Rectifier: -A: Prototype only. Would have fallen within the first five serial numbers. -B: Prototype only. Would have fallen within the first five serial numbers. -C: These circuit boards could be found on Dual Rectifiers with serial numbers from six to the mid to late 200s. They are a significantly brighter version of the Dual Rectifier and can be better for soloing. Featured high quality transformers that have not be reproduced. Serial effects loop. -D: These circuit boards could be found on Dual Rectifiers with serial numbers from the mid to late 200s to 500 (and a bit later). They are a little darker than Revision C, yet they still retain the positive characteristics. Feature the same transformers as revision C. Serial effects loop. -F: These were the revision between the fabled "Pre-500" Dual Rectifiers and the current "Revision G" DRs. Many were equipped with transformers with specifications close to those of the originals, the earliest even have the "Pre-500" transformers. I have seen some with Serial loops and some with Parallel. -G: Current revision of the DR. no.1 is in germany, they didn't serial the proto types a and b they did after production began on C( AFTER THEY PASSED THE TEST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 no.1 is in germany, they didn't serial the proto types a and b they did after production began on C( AFTER THEY PASSED THE TEST) I found that information on the net. I know no.1 is in germany, but is there a link of more info on #1 that you know of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 LOL! So you're spreading your BS and mis-information here as well. At least your consistent. For anyone that would like to know what's going on here, this guy came to the Boogie Board and tried to spread a bunch of BS hype and mis-information thinking he could drive up the price of the amp he's selling. The problem is the people there know what they're talking about and he doesn't. There's quite a few gems over there but this is probably the best where he gets owned multiple times yet continues on with his bull{censored}..... http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=18810&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 It seems once people catch on to his bull{censored}, MrSandman starts crying troll. After {censored}ing over that one kid, I'm surprised he wasn't banned from HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dropped_2_C Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I found that information on the net. I know no.1 is in germany, but is there a link of more info on #1 that you know of? Just what Mike B at mesa has told me ( which to no surprise Boogie Babies already has all this info). I posted the pic or link of the No.1 on the boogie board a while back. All I know about the coveted no.1 recto is that the company in germany(famous i think is the name) is copying them and selling them(it won't sound like it of course but best of luck to them). And as far as Schematics is concerned all i have found was REV RF-1F. Sadly I can't comment on the details of the 1st series recto i don't have the knowledge on it to make anything concrete Mike says (and i say this loosely) that the 1st one is the same as the first100-200 or so minus a brand of resistor( he says they may have ran out or had a higher value or something or whatever just a possibility nothing concrete or certain) or whatnot(he can't confirm if they are any major differences). i assume they would be pretty close up until the board changed from C-D. One thing Mike has never answered for me is why there is no REV E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kung-Fool Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Just what Mike B at mesa has told me ( which to no surprise Boogie Babies already has all this info). I posted the pic or link of the No.1 on the boogie board a while back. All I know about the coveted no.1 recto is that the company in germany(famous i think is the name) is copying them and selling them(it won't sound like it of course but best of luck to them). And as far as Schematics is concerned all i have found was REV RF-1F. Sadly I can't comment on the details of the 1st series recto i don't have the knowledge on it to make anything concrete Mike says (and i say this loosely) that the 1st one is the same as the first100-200 or so minus a brand of resistor( he says they may have ran out or had a higher value or something or whatever just a possibility nothing concrete or certain) or whatnot(he can't confirm if they are any major differences). i assume they would be pretty close up until the board changed from C-D. One thing Mike has never answered for me is why there is no REV E Dropped_2_C my man, how have you been?We actually found there was a rev E. Someone on the Boogie Board owns one.Btw, don't waste your time with this guy. He's not interested in anything real...he's just looking for anything he can twist to support his pimp job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I think there was a Rev E owner on this site.. It was very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I think there was a Rev E owner on this site.. It was very limited.I wish the mods would kick you off this site Seriously, take your {censored} elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1772692&highlight=MrSandman Here's some more insight to MrSandman's scam of using HC to flip gear for profit, while screwing over teenage members of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dropped_2_C Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Dropped_2_C my man, how have you been? We actually found there was a rev E. Someone on the Boogie Board owns one. Btw, don't waste your time with this guy. He's not interested in anything real...he's just looking for anything he can twist to support his pimp job. I have been good man i came close to losing my mom and all so i have been a bit spaced out man, I am pretty close to my mom she is in here mid to late 40's i think 46. I would love to see the rev E. so what are the major changes to it versus F I wonder if he could do some clips or better yet compare it to a F or D? also what rev( i am saying g) would you put a 8100ish? I got one from Dimebag a while ago I have been on a 2 channel frenzy lol. if i could get that e all i would need would be d and e (if the 8100ish one is a g) to have them all besides a and b of course lol. EDIT: Also i like rectos sometimes i hate them but it's the love that cause's you to hate things at time. I just like to have them( I want all the revisions) i want them for nothing more than my own interest nothing elusive or special i do prefer the tone of the 2 channel's as far as dialing them in and all that. But back to the point I collect these for my own amusement nothing more, nothing that makes them better than the next amp just something I prefer. And i feel like royalty with them(if I can get them all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Owens Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I had one of the first ones and i didnt think it was that hot..I liked my SLO more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted November 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 It seems once people catch on to his bull{censored}, MrSandman starts crying troll. After {censored}ing over that one kid, I'm surprised he wasn't banned from HC. ^^^^ Troll. This guy has harassed me for awhile now. I was forced to reported him to the MODS today because of this.If anyone questions my trading etiquette, read here. This proves chucknutz is harassing and starting trouble on the boards. I hope he gets banned!http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797563http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1775341&page=2&highlight=gear-vaultAnd here are some references: Guitarted cryptic1911 barneyc4 7stringofablick Adam Poland bassturd Belt Captain_howdy coolwaterz DarthGio divadc DracoAran ericwylde Eschaton JimAnsell killswitch_19 LPonayz luke978 lumpy555 Mesa_Boogie mfergel Mister Zero negative theory NixerX pert404 schecterguy shreddersteve suttree vmann If anyone has any concerns, please feel free to email me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kung-Fool Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I have been good man i came close to losing my mom and all so i have been a bit spaced out man, I am pretty close to my mom she is in here mid to late 40's i think 46.I would love to see the rev E. so what are the major changes to it versus F I wonder if he could do some clips or better yet compare it to a F or D?also what rev( i am saying g) would you put a 8100ish? I got one from Dimebag a while ago I have been on a 2 channel frenzy lol. if i could get that e all i would need would be d and e (if the 8100ish one is a g) to have them all besides a and b of course lol. Sorry to hear it man. Hope she's better. That's definitely a G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 ^^^^ Troll. This guy has harassed me for awhile now. I was forced to reported him to the MODS today because of this.If anyone questions my trading etiquette, read here. This proves chucknutz is harassing and starting trouble on the boards. I hope he gets banned!http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797563http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1775341&page=2&highlight=gear-vaultAnd here are some references: Guitarted cryptic1911 barneyc4 7stringofablick Adam Poland bassturd Belt Captain_howdy coolwaterz DarthGio divadc DracoAran ericwylde Eschaton JimAnsell killswitch_19 LPonayz luke978 lumpy555 Mesa_Boogie mfergel Mister Zero negative theory NixerX pert404 schecterguy shreddersteve suttree vmann If anyone has any concerns, please feel free to email me. What about the kid you harassed by calling his Mom for bogus reasons? Then slandering him on the board? Take your scam back to your {censored}ty eBay wanna-be site. I just don't want to see another kid get screwed over by your BS. Anyone that questions it, just read the post I linked to above where MrSandman gets pwnd for scamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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