Members escapethefate Posted December 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 can anyone with a DRRI who uses pedals for dirt chime in and give me an example of what type of sounds you can get out of that combination? also no more argument about master volume...i want to know which amp would be better suited not the definition of a master volume...llol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ramblin390 Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 You can't do that with any amplifier. Once you turn the global master volume down that sweet breakup goes away. If the power tubes aren't made to work, then there's no way that sweet breakup is going to happen unless you turn up the preamp volume. The only way to get what you're talking about is with an attenuator. wrong, my jcm 600 you could get your tone on the clean channel with the channel volume and use your master volume for overall level. Master volume controls both channels-c30 doesn't have this feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStain Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 wrong, my jcm 600 you could get your tone on the clean channel with the channel volume and use your master volume for overall level. Master volume controls both channels-c30 doesn't have this feature. If so, that is exactly the same thing as a Pre volume, post volume. You're simply getting preamp distortion with your "clean" channel. There's no way there's breakup at a lower volume level unless there is. It's simple physics. If you keep going on in this way, claiming you're getting powertube breakup AND keeping your master volume low, prepare to be laughed out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snax Panther Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 Well, you guys did a fine job of turning this thread into a pointless debate thread. Cocksuckers. Get the DRRI, a TS9, an OCD, and a good delay. Be done with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ramblin390 Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 If so, that is exactly the same thing as a Pre volume, post volume. You're simply getting preamp distortion with your "clean" channel. There's no way there's breakup at a lower volume level unless there is. It's simple physics. If you keep going on in this way, claiming you're getting powertube breakup AND keeping your master volume low, prepare to be laughed out of here. from peavey: Classic 50 Series IS equipped with Master Volume. Then teach him how to read the SPECIFICATIONS on the Peavey Product Web Site..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members randombastage Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 I've got both, with a few different pedals you can eliminate the C30 alltogether. you'll have to go through a few to find your sound though. I highly recommend the Seymore Duncan Twin Tube Classic pedal...it really rocks (with either amp I recommend it). I also use an attenuator on the DRRI to get tube overdrive without pedals at lower volume (so sweet!!!) but even with the attenuator all the way up it is a bit loud for most bedroom players so pedals are a must for heavy tones. With pedals you can keep it quieter and still get heavy...with an attenuator AND pedals you can get the same heavy-at-very-low levels like the C30 pre and post controlled gain (but you sacrifice some tonal quality...still good but less than the real thing). I'm keeping the C30 though because my LesPaul sounds GREAT with the C30 without any need for a pedal to get heavy, not that insane midscooped "brutalz" tone, but heavy like Zeppelin/Guns&Roses/Metallica heavy. The DRRI is the better amp, clean to slightly breaking up all the way to hard rockin is amazing! If the house was on fire the DRRI is on my list to save right after the children, then the guitars...then the C30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members randombastage Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 can anyone with a DRRI who uses pedals for dirt chime in and give me an example of what type of sounds you can get out of that combination? To be specific on this question, I have four pedals for dirt on my DRRI. TS9, Seymore Duncan Twin Tube Classic, Route 66, Boss OD3. I use them all, one at a time, to get any kind of sound I want. You may pick a few different ones or use only one or two but you'll want more than one. The amp takes pedals really well and pedals are cheap. Get the DRRI, you won't ever sell it unless you take up crack smoking as a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members televisionary Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 DRRI because it has vibrato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted December 30, 2007 Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 from peavey:Classic 50 Series IS equipped with Master Volume.Then teach him how to read the SPECIFICATIONS on the Peavey Product Web Site..... Yeah, and guess what happens if you crank the clean channel volume, and lower the global master to compensate? NO DISTORTION, WHATSOEVER. Peavey likes to relabel things and act like they invented it, such as "post" and "resonance" controls, both of which I believe they claim to have patents for. But that doesn't mean {censored}. It's still a master volume circuit and the exact same thing as a deep/depth control, or whatever anyone else calls it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members escapethefate Posted December 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2007 To be specific on this question, I have four pedals for dirt on my DRRI. TS9, Seymore Duncan Twin Tube Classic, Route 66, Boss OD3. I use them all, one at a time, to get any kind of sound I want. You may pick a few different ones or use only one or two but you'll want more than one. The amp takes pedals really well and pedals are cheap. Get the DRRI, you won't ever sell it unless you take up crack smoking as a hobby. thx for the good answer...can anyone else chime in on this?? I love the DRRI for the fender name and for the tone but i like playing distorted sounds as well and it looks like i may have to fish out some more $$$ to get the DRRI with distortion...this is a really hard choice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ramblin390 Posted December 31, 2007 Members Share Posted December 31, 2007 That's what the distortion channel is doing, ding dong. It's not two separate amps built into one.Yeah, and guess what happens if you crank the clean channel volume, and lower the global master to compensate?NO DISTORTION, WHATSOEVER.Peavey likes to relabel things and act like they invented it, such as "post" and "resonance" controls, both of which I believe they claim to have patents for. But that doesn't mean {censored}. It's still a master volume circuit and the exact same thing as a deep/depth control, or whatever anyone else calls it. what global master do I lower with the clean channel on 6?-there isn't one dipspit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStain Posted December 31, 2007 Members Share Posted December 31, 2007 what global master do I lower with the clean channel on 6?-there isn't one dipspit. Man, you're a total noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zygoat Posted December 31, 2007 Members Share Posted December 31, 2007 Get a good DRRI, a TS-9, and a decent delay pedal... you'll be set. :love: Plus one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mdog114 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 That's disputing semantics in a pretty misleading manner.The entire point of a master volume is to attenuate the signal after the preamp is overdriven. It's not to control the level of each channel unless it's a GLOBAL master volume. I've never once heard someone call that design a "post" volume in my entire life. The knob itself may be labeled "post" by Peavey, but the whole point is that the channel has a master volume circuit.Everyone universally refers to single channel Marshalls as either having a master volume, or as non-master volume. In the case of it having a master volume, there aren't multiple channels to begin with, but it's the exact same thing as the distortion channel on a Classic 30. In the case of it being NMV, it may still only have one main volume control, yet it's stated to NOT have a master volume, ONLY for the fact that there isn't a way to attenuate the signal after the preamp so that it can be overdriven by itself.So by that logic:distortion channel = master volume circuitnormal channel = NMV circuitRegardless, I don't see why that'd even matter if an amp doesn't have a global volume control. That's almost completely pointless, hence most amps not having it. That pretty much sums it up. They're both good amps, but I would go with the drri and a pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 what global master do I lower with the clean channel on 6?-there isn't one dipspit. Too bad I didn't see this before. You are so SMRAT, and friendly, to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Man, you're a total noob. +1 Ramblinnoob, you're retarded. STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cränky Bästärd Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Well, a DRRI isn't exactly versatile, unless you're talking variety of clean sounds... I'd recommend the C30 for versatility, the DRRI for tonal quality. Um, it has had the reputation of being one of the most versatile amps ever made for over forty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ramblin390 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 You can't do that with any amplifier. Once you turn the global master volume down that sweet breakup goes away. If the power tubes aren't made to work, then there's no way that sweet breakup is going to happen unless you turn up the preamp volume. The only way to get what you're talking about is with an attenuator. thats right {censored}nut-use a attenuator cause theres no master volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SirJackdeFuzz Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 a post volume *is* essentially a master volume. You're able to get distortion at reasonable volume levels. This man is correct !!! LISTEN TO HIM !!! I tested a C30 (and a H&K Tubeman) for three weeks, and walked away with a BJr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tkachuk07 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 There's no effects loop on a deluxe reverb. So you can't run any effects after the preamp. The C30 does have an effects loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThreeGutRock Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I have a DRRI, and love it. While it's a simple amp, I think that's what really makes it versatile. It's just such a sweet, warm, pure base to build your sound on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStain Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 thats right {censored}nut-use a attenuator cause theres no master volume what the {censored} are you talking about? You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grayeyes777 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 the classic 30 has 2 weaknesses imo... the stock speaker suks and makes the amp very boxy and brittle sounding.... and it can be a bit of a noisy amp when on the higher gain settings. A v30 replacement makes this amp the best amp for the money. you can find a used one on craigslist for 300 or so. good pre amp tubes (i like the jj's for it) keep the noise down. c50 is a step up and if you get the 4/10 combo you don't have to do the speaker replacement. The c30 is the one amp that i can just throw in the car and take to any gig with only a footswitch. the deluxe is one of my least favorite fenders. bassman is warmer imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Professor Tom Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I have found that with a Classic 30 the clean channel works better with a Strat or a Tele but the dirty channel works better with a humbucker guitar or a P90. I think it's a good amp for the money even in standard form without mods. I was never a Fender amp fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabotage69 Posted March 9, 2010 Members Share Posted March 9, 2010 -1If the c30 had a master volume, you could crank the clean channel to 6 and get that sweet breakup and use a master to lower the overall volume so your not rattling the windows. this is an old post but are you really this dumb? youre so wrong its not even funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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