Members FinchTheory Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 I ordered my Shiva a couple days ago, it comes in 4-8 weeks and I ordered the EL-34 non-reverb version. I'm very excited, but in the back of my head I keep worrying that I'm going to miss out on the reverb. I ordered the non-reverb version because I heard it sounds better, but now (after ordering my head) a couple people have told me this isn't true. I wouldn't normally freak out about something like this, but its such an expensive purchase that I want it to be perfect. Also you can't add interal reverb afterwords. Am I going to live without reverb? Do the non-reverbs actually sound better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trey85stang Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 screw reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SLfreak Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 I don't know if the non-reverbs would sound better or not, but I know there's nothing quite like a good external reverb unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Oh, c'mon. It's reverb. You can buy a $60 pedal that can do that for you. Don't fret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoodleFace Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Never in my life have I used reverb in a band setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Pedal reverb is not the same as spring reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glenecho Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Depends on what kind of music you play. In my jazz quartet setting and especially my trio setting it's really hard to get by without it...things just sound much more full in general when it's used. That said I think the reverb in my Mark IV is woefully underrated. Nice and dark and doesn't get in the way...but again it's playing jazz. But as already said...$60 pedal will get you there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brick Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Unless you're playing jazz as stated above, you'll be fine. I find that reverb just tends to muddy things up in a live band situation. Must be used very sparingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 I only use reverb on cleans and have a Rocktron Replifex for effects. I know I sure wouldn't miss it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvanSinga Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Depends on what kind of music you play. In my jazz quartet setting and especially my trio setting it's really hard to get by without it...things just sound much more full in general when it's used. That said I think the reverb in my Mark IV is woefully underrated. Nice and dark and doesn't get in the way...but again it's playing jazz.But as already said...$60 pedal will get you there too. may i know whats the setting for ur mark iv reverb and clean channel? seems like the reverb when turned on makes the amp brighter and on the lead channelalmost too bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phyrexia Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 i would rather hear a good digital reverb than spring reverb anyway. i actually turned around the other day when I heard the reverb on a GT10 in stereo through some PA speakers. Sounded like I really was in a big room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FinchTheory Posted May 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 haha you guys have made me feel better about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tsunamijesus Posted May 27, 2008 Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 just clarify, the guy plays indie and post hardcore. he needs reverb as much as anyone else. i think he's not missing out either; it's gonna sound amazing either way. a good outboard reverb will fill that need just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FinchTheory Posted May 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 27, 2008 Cody Bonette, guitar player/singer for As Cities Burn, is the main reason I wanted to get a Shiva. He posted this in a message board... wwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The secret to good tone...is...not using pedals. Everybody and their brothers cat are trying new distortion pedals...but strangely enough, everybodies guitar sounds like a swarm of bees. The best tone I have ever found is my Bogner Shiva, with a 4x12 Bogner cab. I used my Bogner Shiva on about 95% of the record, and it was compared to Mesa, Marshall,Vox, etc. If I couldn't use that...I would be forced to club adam and take his oldschool Mesa Boogie (new mesa amps sound like bees). HINT stay away from Marshall...these sound like bees, paper thin and fuzzy. My board has my wireless, 1 boss tuner, 1 boss Noise Suppressor (to eliminate noise and feedback while jumping and doing 360's), and of course my footswitch for my Bogner Shiva head. The foot switch gives me, Clean Channel, Distortion, and boost!!! The boost will melt your face. I use this for guitar solos and when adam doesn't play his guitar...ex.Life is Good. So, in short, it takes a lot of money to sound good. I tried for years to have good tone for cheap...it will never happen. Sorry. Hope that helps. ...looks like he has a non-reverb head too! I think he would of mentioned reverb or at least the function on his footswitch if he used it (or had it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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