Members kinggeoff Posted November 6, 2008 Members Share Posted November 6, 2008 I've never really liked EMGs with the VHT UL all that much, but I had some time today and (after reading some posts about emgs vs passives) I thought I would give the EMGs a shot again. It was sounding really good to me. Nice and thick, with some bite and some saturation. I liked how things were going, so I threw a mic up to do a single track, nice n raw. It's just some random playing to show how the amp reacts to single notes and chords from an EMG. Was using an EMG 81 with the 18v mod, in a really light Brian Moore i8 guitar. Recorded the track with an sm57. Duplicated it in Cubase, with one panned 60 right, the other 60 left. Didnt use any boost. There was no post EQ. Net Musicianshttp://www.netmusicians.org/files/80-sm57_test3_chug.mp3 Anyone else have any experiences with VHTs and EMGs? good or bad?Lemme know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockitsauce Posted November 6, 2008 Members Share Posted November 6, 2008 I liked it. I use my 18v 81 into my d60 and it sounds pretty good. That deliverance isnt near as tight as that UL though by the way of the clip. Sounds like a good match to me and goodjob in the capture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 6, 2008 Members Share Posted November 6, 2008 Sounds too dry, almost thin. A passive pickup will wetten the tone just enough to make it nice and rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted November 6, 2008 Members Share Posted November 6, 2008 I played a UL with my EMG 81 equipped Godin at the Ampfest and thought it was a killer combination. That said, I wasn't too crazy about your tone in this clip though. Try some different amp settings or mic placements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markdude Posted November 6, 2008 Members Share Posted November 6, 2008 Sounds like it would probably work decently in a mix. By the way, by duplicating the track, and panning them oppositely, you did absolutely nothing. It's still a mono track being played through both speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kinggeoff Posted November 6, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 6, 2008 Sounds like it would probably work decently in a mix. By the way, by duplicating the track, and panning them oppositely, you did absolutely nothing. It's still a mono track being played through both speakers. It sounded different to me it might just be a placebo kinda thing, but it just sounded better than trying to up the volume without clipping (to my ears...which are very untrained) i know it's not double tracking, but it sounds different than just upping the volume on a singe track to me:confused: either way, it's a single track, which to my ears sounds much bigger than a lot of double tracked stuff ive been hearing, so i thought i'd post how i did it appreciate the input guys keep it coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StoneM Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 I use EMGs and duncan invaders and to my ears the VHT likes the EMGs better the duncan sounds muddy on it. Where as I don't like EMGs on my 5150 at all. I think you will like em if you suss the EQ out and get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 It sounds alright...not horrible or anything. If you like it, stick with it. Personally I think some passives would sound much thicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greg apocalypse Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 Sounds sick to me, go VHT! I lovvvve EMG's through my UL. I prefer passive pickups, but because I like the brotherhood between my UL and my 81/85, it sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kinggeoff Posted November 7, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 thanks for the input guys, i appreciate the comments. i know the tone isnt for everyone, i just love how grindy and sort of bubbly the bottom end stays while the top end sizzles...i love the texture of the VHT distortion. Just has this roar that I can't get enough of This was on the half power setting, so the sound is a little darker, mid shift is out so it's got a colder more scooped sound . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FalseRevRG Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 my experience with the Deliverance has been that it gets along really well with EMGs, for my taste at least. actually, it's the pickiest amp i've ever played...super sensitive to small differences in guitars, cables, pickups, speakers, etc. i find that the guitars it gets along with sound really really good through it, but the others sound anywhere from mediocre to just outright bad, even if they sound great through other amps. here are a couple clips i did on the same day, one with a guitar loaded with EMGs, the other with a guitar with passive pickups: http://netmusicians.org/index.php?section=id&value=2113http://netmusicians.org/index.php?section=id&value=2112 the only difference in the guitar tone will be from the guitar itself, because i didn't touch the mic position or EQ or anything. i tried to make any plugins i used as similar as possible between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 It sounds alright...not horrible or anything. If you like it, stick with it. Personally I think some passives would sound much thicker. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Killzone Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 Unearth's tone doesent sound too bad with that combo. Supposidly in the eyes of fire was recorded with UL's and their emg loaded 7's, didnt like that tone too much. Now the cobra and 5150 blended tone adam d gets for them, now were talking! VHT's seems pretty stiff and tight as it is, seems like actives would make them even more stiff and tight if that makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted November 7, 2008 Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 When I had my Hundred CLX, I remember trying my friends KH2 and when we compared tones between his and mine (I played an Ibby J-Custom with a Tone Zone in the bridge and a Paf Pro in the neck) we found that the passive pups sounded thicker and more organic. He didn't have the 18v mod cos' back then cos hell, we didn't know about it It's not a very fair comparison though cos' the KH2 has an alder body and my J-Custom had a mahogany back and maple top with direct mounted pups.I still prefer the tone of passives overall but if you like the sound of actives, by all means have fun with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kinggeoff Posted November 7, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2008 my experience with the Deliverance has been that it gets along really well with EMGs, for my taste at least. actually, it's the pickiest amp i've ever played...super sensitive to small differences in guitars, cables, pickups, speakers, etc. i find that the guitars it gets along with sound really really good through it, but the others sound anywhere from mediocre to just outright bad, even if they sound great through other amps. here are a couple clips i did on the same day, one with a guitar loaded with EMGs, the other with a guitar with passive pickups: http://netmusicians.org/index.php?section=id&value=2113http://netmusicians.org/index.php?section=id&value=2112the only difference in the guitar tone will be from the guitar itself, because i didn't touch the mic position or EQ or anything. i tried to make any plugins i used as similar as possible between the two. Dude I'm loving the second clip. I see what you mean, and I think I'm seeing what everyone is saying about the differences in how thick the tone sounds. I'm going to do some experimenting with double tracking and full mixes and see what I can learn thanks again guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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