Members cauberallies Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 I have had the best results with VHT cabs with Eminence P50Es, and Marshall cabs with G12T75s. Actually, THE best live tone I have ever had/heard came from running my Kramer 85 Baretta RI and my TS808 as a boost, into a 6505+ with my VHT fatbottom slant on top, and Marshall 1960B on the bottom. It was seriously perfect. But they sound great with either cab by themselves too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThrashensteiN Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 V30's IMO are great. Swampthangs are cool too...but I like a bit of sparkle in my tone. V30s seem a little more...universal i suppose. Swamp Thangs are like hell itself consuming your low end/low mids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Not with the 6505+But after hearing how smooth my tone was, I wouldn't consider ever switching out my V30's. You should try it. It sounds a lot better with them. A lot more brutal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Well maybe. there's some guy selling two 75's locally for $100. Maybe I'll consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cauberallies Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 You should try it. It sounds a lot better with them. A lot more brutal too. I agree. After owning 3 different 5150s, and using both them and the 6505+ extensively with multiple V30 loaded cabs, multiple gt75 loaded cabs, a cab with a mix of both, VHT deliverance and fatbottom cabs, and several others, I have to say that they sound the best with the 75s, or the VHT's P50Es. They both beat the vintage 30s by a long shot in my opinion. Most of the 5150/6505 + v30 tones I have heard other people use have been muddy, and way too mid heavy(and I am a lover of teh midz). I can get passable tones with them, but they are far from the ideal choice in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 75s are better. v3os have a lot of mids in them that's what I am thinking... the 6505+, being a Peavey, already has lots of mids, the 75 is somewhat scooped so it would balance out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 why stick with celestions when eminences are cheaper? I like Eminences so I am open to the idea.. which one do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 that's what I am thinking... the 6505+, being a Peavey, already has lots of mids, the 75 is somewhat scooped so it would balance out better. U would think so, but it doesn't. Remains scooped sounding with a boomy low end and superrr fizzy, shrill high end. I strongly dislike g12t75s for metal on a 5150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ciula Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 OK guys lets be serious V30-way to much mids when you link this speaker with 6505+, I coudn't listened to this,eq unresponding with them G12T75-better,way much clearer, smoother, but sounded like behind the blanket V12-ok,but nothing speciall and now,ladies and gentelmans, the winnerV60!!!and now why: V60 are like G12 clones, so they have scooped mids,but you can get grate ballance with eq,and here is second thing,the EQ has great respond with this speakers. Another thing, ABSOLUTELY winner if you are looking for clear,smooth sound with long sustain, V30 sounded like garbage compare to them(I compared cabs with V60 and V30 side by side). And they dont have this "behind the blanket" sound, they are "right in the face" sound.Try this speakers,seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 and now why: V60 are like G12 clones, so they have scooped mids,but you can get grate ballance with eq,and here is second thing,the EQ has great respond with this speakers. Another thing, ABSOLUTELY winner if you are looking for clear,smooth sound with long sustain, V30 sounded like garbage compare to them(I compared cabs with V60 and V30 side by side). And they dont have this "behind the blanket" sound, they are "right in the face" sound.Try this speakers,seriously. Interesting...where can I find them for sale? I just googled them and it appears they only come on ENGL cabs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 Well I just got back from a friends house. I brought my cab over and we swapped out 2 of my V30's for 2 of his G12 75's. So now we both have a cab with both speakers. I'll tell you what I think of it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 V30 all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vic Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 i hate the v60 with a recto but i should be right up the 6505+ alley.ive tried the v30's and 75's but i freaken love greenbacks!!! with my old 5150II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 The problem with Greenbacks though is that they don't have a high power rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dimebag11 Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 5150's will sound good with a lot of speakers man 75s, v30s, greenies, p50e's, and probably those V60s (one of my favorite speakers...so big and warm and lush) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 The problem with Greenbacks though is that they don't have a high power rating. A 4x12 with greenbacks is fine. 100 watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 A 4x12 with greenbacks is fine. 100 watts With a 120 watt head? I'd rather have more than not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 I have a cab with greenbacks and I love it, I will never sell it etc.. but I don't think GBs are the right speakers for the 6505+, the amount of midrange and low end the amp puts out makes the GBs fart real quick. I am really looking for a speaker that can remain tight and clean under a lot of volume and gain and the GB isn't it. With a Marshall it's absolutely amazing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericwylde Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 v30 for surepeavey and engl amps are the only ones that I like the best with V30's edit: buy v30's if you're getting them for cheapif you're buying new speakers, grab some Weber 12V, that is a improved V30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 If u run post gain on 2, for example, your only pushing the cab with something small like 10 watts. Although tonally, the greenies do have that ease of flubby bass. They do sound good, but I recommend v30 or g12k100, or both. Neverrrr g12t75s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 If u run post gain on 2, for example, your only pushing the cab with something small like 10 watts. Although tonally, the greenies do have that ease of flubby bass. They do sound good, but I recommend v30 or g12k100, or both. Neverrrr g12t75s I'm anxious to see how my cab sounds now that I have two G1275's in it. Probably a more balanced sound I would assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 I'm anxious to see how my cab sounds now that I have two G1275's in it. Probably a more balanced sound I would assume. yes it will be more balanced. but if u really listen, ull hear a harsh high end w/fizzyness from the 75's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 yes it will be more balanced. but if u really listen, ull hear a harsh high end w/fizzyness from the 75's. Meh. I have an EQ, I can fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 Meh. I have an EQ, I can fix that. you can try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 I've tried V30's, G12T75's and the stock Sheffield speakers in the 5150 cab (I think 1200 is the model number on those). V30's were the winner IMO. Good mid grind and clarity. I think the G12T75's were a little clearer, but they lose some of that hugeness/grind that V30's give. The Sheffields...let's just say I didn't get along with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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