Members mparsons Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Look at this: $600 brand new, 300W at 8ohms, with a 4 band EQ. Weighs 7 lbs. And its tiny. I want a small, cheap, powerful, and light guitar amp that sounds decent. Any out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Because tubes are not small, cheap, or light. They do, however, sound great.SS is small, cheap, and light, but doesn't sound as good. Pick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thurston Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Look at this: $600 brand new, 300W at 8ohms, with a 4 band EQ. Weighs 7 lbs. And its tiny. I want a small, cheap, powerful, and light guitar amp that sounds decent. Any out there? Balanced input:confused: Are basses generally wired with an XLR jack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlayboyChris Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlayboyChris Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Balanced input:confused: Are basses generally wired with an XLR jack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members silenced777 Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Those Mark Bass heads are absolutely amazing! My bassist uses a little mark II with a MarkBass 4x10 and it is SICK sounding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Because, while bassists crave things like: SUPER clean headroomIncredibly efficient speakers Guitarists don't want those things. Ultra clean + ultra efficient = dead sounding (for a guitar player). Most guitar speakers are not that efficient, especially lower wattage speakers like greenbacks and blues which allow for some "speaker overdrive" which is desirable in guitar tone. And a "pushed" sounding poweramp is nearly impossible without dying @500 watts RMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Slaymoar Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Its like shopping for a rich, super hot, successful, independant, non-needy woman that will fetch you beer, do your laundry, sucks your balls and have no emotional issues. :poke: -D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members mparsons Posted July 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Do want Can it do teh br00tz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thurston Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thanks for the response!The only bass setup I'm really familiar with is the POS I have in my friend's basement, so sorry:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jim85IROC Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 The answer is quite simple. Bassists have embraced technology. Guitarists have imbraced history. Take the blackstar HT-5 for example. Solid state distortion. It could easily be amplified by a tiny class-D amp with a switching power supply and be about the size of a clock radio and under $200, but it wouldn't sell. But make it bigger and more expensive so you can stick a tube in it, and it's the next gotta-have item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 The answer is quite simple. Bassists have embraced technology. Guitarists have imbraced history.I like this. Good answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 Do want Can it do teh br00tz? with a boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 you can pry my large, unwieldy, expensive tubes out of my cold dead hands :poke::poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 I like this. Good answer. i don't, it's stupid. amps aren't computers, the objective here is not compactness or efficiency, it's great tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jim85IROC Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 i don't, it's stupid. amps aren't computers, the objective here is not compactness or efficiency, it's great tone.I never said anything to the contrary. Whether it's right or wrong, people's perception of "great tone" is heavily influenced by the past. And why is it "stupid"? Just because your narrow minded ass doesn't agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 i don't, it's stupid. amps aren't computers, the objective here is not compactness or efficiency, it's great tone.Settle down sally. Look at the amps in my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 i will be 100% willing to use SS/digital amps when they can soft clip without odd order harmonics...just like tubes do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 because it's stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesbox101 Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 ewww...siiiiick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 The answer is quite simple. Bassists have embraced technology. Guitarists have imbraced history. Great post!Bassist= Add strings, change electronics, change the way they play,multi way amplification and they are happy.Guitarists=40 year old amp, 50 year old guitar and they are happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 What I'd like to see more on guitar amps are more versatile EQs. Bassists are used to things like parametric mids, full-blown graphic EQs and whatnot but guitar amps tend to stick to the ol' bass-middle-treble EQ setup. I really liked how my old Yamaha DG80 combo had an active EQ with separate controls for low and high mids. After all, mids are very important in guitar tone so why not have more control over them? As for size, I don't think it's really a problem of tubes but the transformers tend to be pretty big. Even the ones that use toroidal transformers take quite a bit of space. That's probably also where a big part of the weight comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chaosStrings Posted July 22, 2009 Members Share Posted July 22, 2009 i will be 100% willing to use SS/digital amps when they can soft clip without odd order harmonics...just like tubes do Tubes clip with odd order harmonic too, and SS amps / digital distortions can be EASILY made to clip with muuuuuuuuuuuuuch more 2nd order harmonic than tubes will ever be capable of. And implementing soft clipping is trivial (you'd be surprised how much hard clipping 6L6 give ...) The only important thing that POWER tubes add is lots of compression when overdriven. This gives that ueber nice feeling when playing, and an extreme effectiveness in cleaning the sound when rolling back the guitar volume. But it is not a matter of sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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