Members kirs Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Does such a beast for direct-to-board recording and headphone monitoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 you mean like a slave out on a mesa head? preamp out with volume control on the output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kirs Posted August 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 you mean like a slave out on a mesa head? preamp out with volume control on the output. Not sure. Could the slave out go to a board without a speaker attached to the head? Basically looking for tube power without a speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Not sure. Could the slave out go to a board without a speaker attached to the head? Basically looking for tube power without a speaker. if you have a tube amp and you have it on you have to have a speaker cabinet or a dummy load hooked up to the speaker out. end of story, no two ways about it. maybe you just want a preamp. the engl e530 has a powered headphone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Does such a beast for direct-to-board recording and headphone monitoring? Umm, ya. Tons of them. Just make sure they are cab-voice/speaker emulation or you will have to do some major EQ'ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Not sure. Could the slave out go to a board without a speaker attached to the head? Basically looking for tube power without a speaker. not as many of those. Some have line-outs with a dummy load. My HT-5 is that way, unfortunately. I wanted to use the line-out for live work but it kills the speaker out. Some are switchable. Had a Koch Studiotone 20 head and I think it was switchable on it. Also check out the Reason stuff. That's either switchable or he can probably do the line out either way. http://www.reasonamps.com/amps_bambinoseries.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kirs Posted August 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Just what I figured. Was wondering if any had some kind of dummy load built-in but I guess not. I guess pre-amp is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Just what I figured. Was wondering if any had some kind of dummy load built-in but I guess not. I guess pre-amp is the way to go.yes, they do, some of them. Some of the Mesas too, I think. Also check the Peavey Windsor Studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Just what I figured. Was wondering if any had some kind of dummy load built-in but I guess not. I guess pre-amp is the way to go. I've had amps by Marshall, Mesa, Traynor and Blackstar that had emulated lines out. The Marshall JVM is the best of them. I use it rather than a mic when playing live. The Marshall and Traynor's line out works when the stand by is on, so you can record silently. You don't even need a speaker plugged in. The Mesa F-50 has a dummy load so you can switch the speaker off, and the Blackstar has a dummy load that's engaged if you unplug the speaker. I'm sure there are plenty of others out there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kirs Posted August 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Great info. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 The Egnater Rebel 30 is that way too, XLR speaker compensated out, no speaker needs to be attached WHEN USED IN SILENT RECORDING MODE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I.P. Freeley Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Kustom Coupes have an emulated XLR line out. The Carvin VT50, Legacy I & II, and V3 have cabinet emulated line out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BC Audio Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 The problem with all of those line outs is that they only give you the preamp signal. The power section of the amp does not come into play, as far as the signal at the line out jack. If you want to hear the power tubes, too, get a Hot Plate or other attenuator with a line out. The attenuator goes between the amp and speaker, or you can set it to "Load" and not use a speaker at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 The problem with all of those line outs is that they only give you the preamp signal. The power section of the amp does not come into play, as far as the signal at the line out jack. If you want to hear the power tubes, too, get a Hot Plate or other attenuator with a line out. The attenuator goes between the amp and speaker, or you can set it to "Load" and not use a speaker at all.Many of them take the signal at the output section, not right after the preamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StillRock Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Peavey 6505 has a cabinet emulated XLR out, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 The Weber MASS attenuator has a line out function with it's own tone stack. You can do some evil things with it. You get the power tube distortion, but not the sound of the cab, of course. As the others have said, that's a big part of the tone you're used to hearing and you'll need some sort of simulator or plug-in for it. But the MASS is fairly cheap and you'll have a very good signal to work with. I don't recommend it, but I was also able to run the Weber's line-out into the low input of another amp, thereby making the first amp into the world's least practical overdrive pedal. Sounded awesome for the ten minutes I had the nerve to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 .That used to be a pretty popular thing, adding a line-out to a Champ or similar and running it into a full stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 That used to be a pretty popular thing, adding a line-out to a Champ or similar and running it into a full stack. I bet that would sound amazing through an old Hiwatt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 the best line out that i've heard on an all valve head was the Koch Powertone II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yourguitarhero Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 The problem with all of those line outs is that they only give you the preamp signal. The power section of the amp does not come into play, as far as the signal at the line out jack. Incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 The Blackstar HT100 has a speaker emulated line out AND a load projection circuits that activates if there are no cables plugged into the speaker jacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peeehooo Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Just as a fun fact: I heard somewhere that the first tube amp with build-in attenuator was the Marshall Studio 15.I find it funny that a big company like Marshall made such an interesting innovation back in the 80's but still failed to properly market it.I guess it shows what market demands are, nobody in the 80's cared about lower powered amps and attenuators. And now it's all the rage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BAXANDALL Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 My Torress Boogie Mite did. My Matamp Minimat 2 does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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