Members Oblivion DC Posted December 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Jabs don't usually have much behind them:confused: A real jab is not just an arm punch, it carries a lot of force and those little gloves don't have much padding to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted December 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 GSP has nothing behind the jab. Kos could have easily been finished. Silva would hammer the {censored} out him. Nothing behind the jab doesn't swell your face up like that in the first round. j/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverend179 Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Pretty sure it doesn't land you in the hospital with a damaged orbital either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 im not taking anything away from gsp's performance, i thought he looked phenominal and im a hater so it takes a lot for me to be impress by hiz performans, but he has to start putting away guys especially when they are on the ropes like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted December 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 im not taking anything away from gsp's performance, i thought he looked phenominal and im a hater so it takes a lot for me to be impress by hiz performans, but he has to start putting away guys especially when they are on the ropes like that. Can't argue with that, at all. It's only a matter of time before "not finishing" is going to bite him in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primeholy Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Pretty sure it doesn't land you in the hospital with a damaged orbital either. This. And the term "keeping him at bay with the jab" comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverend179 Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 GSP is a tactician, pure and simple. I believe that Kos is a better wrestler than GSP, and closing up to finish a combination on Kos, one eye or not, would have opened GSP up to a take down. Doesn't take much depth perception to drop an elbow on a guy when you're a foot from his face. GSP saw an advantage, and capitalized upon it. I'm not a GSP nuthugger, I like all-or-nothing fighters (My favorites are Chris Leben and Wanderlei Silva) but you can't deny his brilliance at winning a damn fight without ever putting himself in serious danger. The last two rounds he was landing 8:1 on Kos. A less experienced fighter would have shot in and potentially gotten mashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 how was it awesome, he fought a one eyed brawler for 25 minutes and didnt finish him. He basically sparred with a punching bag for 5 rounds. He looked phenominal but enough is enough, this guy has to start finishing top guys if he wants the legacy that FEdor, Wanderlei and Anderson Silva have already cemented. this so {censored}ing much. sure hes a great striker and what not, but the dude cant finish a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sp12 Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 gsp is phenomenal, and a true mixed martial artist. Gref Jackson transformed him into a machine. He has the attributes and it's impossible to make him derail from his game plan. That being said he does not commit or break his rigid gameplan which is why he doesn't finish fights. It's also why he doesn't lose. That being said he just grinded out koscheck the way he did with hardy and thiago alves as well. He just did it standing up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PinkSabbath Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Weight wise you might be right, but weight doesn't mean everything as seen in the Lesnar vs. Cain match.GSP has fantastic wrestling which is Silva's big weakness. Silva couldn't pull of a last minute submission on GSP like he did on Sonnen. I actually think GSP would be very likely to win if he could keep Silva on the ground like Sonnen did. Bones vs. Silva would be a great match, but I don't know if that is ever going to happen considering how slow they are giving Bones good fights. I think the difference here though is that Lesnar is still pretty green and relies HEAVILY on his wrestling and brute strength. That doesn't fly against a dude like Cain, who has a great wrestling back ground of his own, and much better conditioning. Where as Anderson Silva is on a whole other level than Brock; the guy doesn't get nervous in the spotlight, he doesn't get gassed, and apart from fighting a guy with a drug enhanced testosterone level while suffering a broken rib, he has always made his opponent fight Anderson's fight. GSP IS a great MMArtist, he fights smart and in last nights fight he got in and out and landed a bunch of points, but Silva's landed half as many punches in a round and left dudes picking up their teeth. Hendo came in from Pride with 2 belts, Anderson took one. Forrest Griffin choked out the current 205 world champ, Silva KO'd him with a jab in the 1st. GSP is great but I don't think he can hang with a bigger dude, the same way Penn couldn't hang with GSP. You're right about Bones / Silva, maybe we'll get Lyoto / Bones instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Then I guess you meant besides instead of behind:idea: Yeah, you can throw your left hook beside your left jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Nothing behind the jab doesn't swell your face up like that in the first round. j/s http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2715537-GSP...&p=41657453&viewfull=1#post41657453 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leadfootdriver Posted December 12, 2010 Members Share Posted December 12, 2010 Koschek looked like a cartoon caricature after the 1st round, with the big plum lookin' eyeball. I laughed my ass off when I seen that! It looked like a steak after the 5th, which was brootal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primeholy Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yeah, you can throw your left hook beside your left jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted December 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2715537-GSP...&p=41657453&viewfull=1#post41657453 Wat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Who throws punches beside each other? Are you talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Wat... The jab itself had snap. Was talking about other punches behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 I think the difference here though is that Lesnar is still pretty green and relies HEAVILY on his wrestling and brute strength. That doesn't fly against a dude like Cain, who has a great wrestling back ground of his own, and much better conditioning. Where as Anderson Silva is on a whole other level than Brock; the guy doesn't get nervous in the spotlight, he doesn't get gassed, and apart from fighting a guy with a drug enhanced testosterone level while suffering a broken rib, he has always made his opponent fight Anderson's fight. GSP IS a great MMArtist, he fights smart and in last nights fight he got in and out and landed a bunch of points, but Silva's landed half as many punches in a round and left dudes picking up their teeth. Hendo came in from Pride with 2 belts, Anderson took one. Forrest Griffin choked out the current 205 world champ, Silva KO'd him with a jab in the 1st. GSP is great but I don't think he can hang with a bigger dude, the same way Penn couldn't hang with GSP.You're right about Bones / Silva, maybe we'll get Lyoto / Bones instead? The thing is though, Brock really uses his weight with his fighting style. That and his weight difference between him and Cain was even larger than it would be between GSP and Silva if GSP was to move up. I don't see Anderson Silva using his weight advantage as much against GSP as people are saying. His reach advantage would be useful for his style, and the weight would help in the clinch, but Anderson isn't the type of fighter to use his weight on an opponent to push around his opponent or on takedowns or GNP. Do you honestly think GSP would have no chance at taking Silva down because of that? Because once Sonnen took Silva down, he stayed there. All Sonnen needed to finish that fight was better BJJ which had always been his problem. GSP doesn't have that weakness. I'm not trying to come off as a GSP fanboy, in fact I like Silva a lot more. I do however think the match-up would be in favor of GSP because of stylistic differences. And I agree on the last point Lyoto vs. Bones would be a great fight to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les-Zombie Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Holy {censored} hes so handsome,that was awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted December 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 He is a pretty man... :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primeholy Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Who throws punches beside each other? Are you talking about this? GOD DAMMNIT! When you said this GSP has nothing behind the jab. Kos could have easily been finished. Silva would hammer the {censored} out him. It read as if you were saying he had no {censored}ing pop in his jab, like it should be a {censored}ing ko punch. When you say besides, it means other than. DO YOU GET IT?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted December 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 GOD DAMMNIT! When you said this It read as if you were saying he had no {censored}ing pop in his jab, like it should be a {censored}ing ko punch. When you say besides, it means other than. DO YOU GET IT?? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 GOD DAMMNIT! When you said this It read as if you were saying he had no {censored}ing pop in his jab, like it should be a {censored}ing ko punch. When you say besides, it means other than. DO YOU GET IT?? Behind also means after. Do you watch boxing? The phrase "work behind the jab" is often used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverend179 Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Behind also means after. Do you watch boxing? The phrase "work behind the jab" is often used. This is true, but a much more common phrase is 'he had power behind that (insert punch here)'. You phrased it poorly. Own up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted December 13, 2010 Members Share Posted December 13, 2010 Just watched the fight online. GSP could have easily taken Koscheck out.. he was definitely making him pay for talking all that {censored}. Man, that eye was {censored}ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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