Members MattACaster Posted March 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm usually on the other side of the desk in these conversations. If you are someone I really want to keep I will make an attempt to see if we can come up with a deal to keep you there. If not, I almost always let you go right away. I generally do not want someone that is leaving the company hanging around. Particularly if you are in IT. We'll give you your two weeks pay but we'll immediately kill your computer access and start to out process you. Kind of hardcore but after 25 years in business I have seen too many short timers mess things up or screw with morale. I could see them doing that. But I don't think it would be smart. The network has expanded dramatically since my boss had a direct hand in the IT operations. There are a ton of password and servers that I don't think he knows.... Then again... maybe a half day would be nice today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted March 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 right, but who knows about the future? I keep those letters with all my certs etc. Always good to have with you on an interview. Good call. I didn't think of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Wish I had a job in IT. That pulls about 80k a year in this area. Give him the two weeks, you kind of have to. Just say that unfortunately a better opportunty has come up and you appreciate the employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members algernon7 Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Gave my two weeks notice at my last job, and was then informed that most of my paid time off would be taken away - over 40 hours' worth. So I rescinded my resignation. I had already scheduled the time off coming up later that month, and my new job was about to begin training. So as I began training for my new job, I called in sick for two weeks at the old job. On the last day of calling in sick, I told the Program Manager that after my vacation week, I wasn't coming back. The third week on my new job was my paid vacation at my old job. Algernon7 FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted March 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Wish I had a job in IT. That pulls about 80k a year in this area. Give him the two weeks, you kind of have to. Just say that unfortunately a better opportunty has come up and you appreciate the employment. Thats my plan. I'm just worried about the reaction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members musicmanmu Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Beating a dead horse here, but i've been in your situation of leaving a job you were content with for a better opportunity. Best to just be open and honest about it and willing to give the typical two weeks. Even offer to help troubleshoot after that for a few months. If you really care about the place, you'll want to see it succeed and will do what you can to help out. Just let them know that. Definitely stay on good terms - you never know when you may need the reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members musicmanmu Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thats my plan. I'm just worried about the reaction... If you have grown to become friends with the folks there, then they will be happy for you and understand. If they are jerks about it, then well...I suppose they aren't real friends. Sure, there's a right to be a bit upset about it, but if they try to guilt trip you into staying or berate you for the decision, it just show the kind of people they are, and you're better off for leaving anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pamackie Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 No good stories yet, but I might have one in a few weeks. Also, your avatar/sig has my :lol:s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted March 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 If you have grown to become friends with the folks there, then they will be happy for you and understand. If they are jerks about it, then well...I suppose they aren't real friends. Sure, there's a right to be a bit upset about it, but if they try to guilt trip you into staying or berate you for the decision, it just show the kind of people they are, and you're better off for leaving anyway. Well said on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted March 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 No good stories yet, but I might have one in a few weeks. Also, your avatar/sig has my :lol:s As does yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Das Booty Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 http://wistechnology.com/articles/1757/ Seriously, get with the program...times have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimSG Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 I could see them doing that. But I don't think it would be smart. The network has expanded dramatically since my boss had a direct hand in the IT operations. There are a ton of password and servers that I don't think he knows....Then again... maybe a half day would be nice today... Yeah, I definitely don't like doing things this way because I'm a hands-on manager and I like working with most of the people here so it is hard so them go so suddenly. But I have to look out for the rest of the business. I always make sure the IT infrastructure is documented and there are always back up personnel. Maybe they will learn a valuable lesson about their business practices when the try to maintain their systems after you leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted March 11, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 http://wistechnology.com/articles/1757/Seriously, get with the program...times have changed. Well then, {censored} it!!! I'm out of here! HALF DAY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phillbis Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Don't burn bridges. Exactly. Just be honest and respectful. Type up a nice letter and give it to your immediate manager or supervisor. Go out classy because you never know when you might need that reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Changing jobs is one of the benefits of living in America. It's easier to fire people, but its also easier to find a new job (theoretically, doesn't seem to be the case now though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Getting fired is only good if your escorted off the premises by the Police, [haz done it.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scooped-mids Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Was at a place where I applied for another job, called in sick to go to interview got the job and current job found out and I was immediately fired. The joys of working in the state of texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Das Booty Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Was at a place where I applied for another job, called in sick to go to interview got the job and current job found out and I was immediately fired. The joys of working in the state of texas. Question...how did current job find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Das Booty Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm usually on the other side of the desk in these conversations. If you are someone I really want to keep I will make an attempt to see if we can come up with a deal to keep you there. If not, I almost always let you go right away. I generally do not want someone that is leaving the company hanging around. Particularly if you are in IT. We'll give you your two weeks pay but we'll immediately kill your computer access and start to out process you. Kind of hardcore but after 25 years in business I have seen too many short timers mess things up or screw with morale. Not hardcore at all. As long as companies realize that an employee should be able to tender a letter of resignation and leave immediately if they choose without repercussion. And I don't buy not letting you clear out your desk and shelves and mailing it to you. Those are MY belongings and you may not know which are mine or the company's ( i.e.:The speakers on my computer are mine). If they are worried about security, they can have someone watch me clean it out. If they still choose not to, I will instruct them NOT to touch my stuff and get a police officer to monitor the cleaning out of my stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scooped-mids Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Question...how did current job find out? Job I applied for called for reference check. I had been at old job for 3 years so I had to list them as a reference because of the amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Das Booty Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 you could give more than 2 weeks and there is always the chance they'll say we'll you can just go now . Not only that, while you are there...you are liable. If you are in IT and the system crashes on your watch, you can find yourself on the receiving of a subpoena and court time, regardless if you are responsible or not. This could also jeopordize your new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Das Booty Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Don't burn bridges. You really think this still holds true in corporate america? You should be old enough to know better. Crossing a bridge back to where you didn't want to be in the first place is moving backwards, anyway. Depending on the relationship with the company you are leaving, those two weeks are enough time to dick you over one more time, such as blaming you for everything that goes wrong and potentially taking you to court for it, jeopardizing your new employment venture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimSG Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 Not hardcore at all.As long as companies realize that an employee should be able to tender a letter of resignation and leave immediately if they choose without repercussion.And I don't buy not letting you clear out your desk and shelves and mailing it to you. Those are MY belongings and you may not know which are mine or the company's ( i.e.:The speakers on my computer are mine). If they are worried about security, they can have someone watch me clean it out. If they still choose not to, I will instruct them NOT to touch my stuff and get a police officer to monitor the cleaning out of my stuff. People always get ample time to gather their belongings and the only time we had someone escorted out was when someone who was getting fired (for intimitdating coworkers) got belligerent and threatening. It's not like we rush someone out the door. I'm just not interested in having someone hang around for two weeks. In my experience most people make the offer to stay around and help train their replacement in good faith. But the usually underestimate how quiclkly short-timer's disease sets in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 heh. i had a terrible job at a farm with a wack job boss who was an ex drug dealer and a pretty big {censored} up. (it was temporary from go, and lasted.. well.. probably longer than i wanted-- a few months anyhow..). i found a new job, knowing he was a total crackpot. i'd always maintained a healthy distance, and basically just did what i was asked- but the day i let him know i was leaving- i gave him 2 weeks. he said he needed a month. i told him that wasn't possible so he starts screaming at me ' yOURE {censored}ING ME. YOU KNOW WHAT? I GIVE YOU A JOB, AND YOU GO AND {censored} ME! OH YEAH? {censored} YOU!'. i stayed calm, and said 'i can only give you two weeks.' he started screaming again. i told him i wasn't going to give him a month, and if he was going to have this kind of reaction-- i'd rescind my offer of two weeks and take my pay NOW and leave. he started screaming again. i just walked out and never went back. never did get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Das Booty Posted March 11, 2011 Members Share Posted March 11, 2011 heh.i had a terrible job at a farm with a wack job boss who was an ex drug dealer and a pretty big {censored} up. (it was temporary from go, and lasted.. well.. probably longer than i wanted-- a few months anyhow..).i found a new job, knowing he was a total crackpot. i'd always maintained a healthy distance, and basically just did what i was asked- but the day i let him know i was leaving- i gave him 2 weeks. he said he needed a month. i told him that wasn't possible so he starts screaming at me ' yOURE {censored}ING ME. YOU KNOW WHAT? I GIVE YOU A JOB, AND YOU GO AND {censored} ME! OH YEAH? {censored} YOU!'. i stayed calm, and said 'i can only give you two weeks.' he started screaming again. i told him i wasn't going to give him a month, and if he was going to have this kind of reaction-- i'd rescind my offer of two weeks and take my pay NOW and leave. he started screaming again. i just walked out and never went back. never did get paid. Never got paid? You fail. All it is is a call to your AG's office. They LOVE when companies vindictively try to not pay money owed people. They shoot off a form letter, and about 99.9% of companies comply. The idiot .1% get raked through the coals. Two of my friends went through this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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