Members nerol1st Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Haha, well yeah if your not using a mic then the amp position is moot. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xFkx Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 All of you guys are giving dood advice, but I think listening to this will give a clue to what I was advising: you can have the best chops, and the tightest amp sound, but you will not get this super-tight start/stop of the guitars without manualy cutting/gating the guitar tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exafro Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 All of you guys are giving dood advice, but I think listening to this will give a clue to what I was advising:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQUyeQf01Qyou can have the best chops, and the tightest amp sound, but you will not get this super-tight start/stop of the guitars without manualy cutting/gating the guitar tracks That really doesn't sound too hard to play. You should be able to do something pretty close to that even without a gate if you want to play it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xFkx Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 That really doesn't sound too hard to play. You should be able to do something pretty close to that even without a gate if you want to play it live. i'm not talking about playing guitar or whether it is playable or not, i'm talking about production techniques I know hitting the snare with consistency isn't an impossible thing to do either, but it doesn't yield the same sonic result as sample replacing the snare... like in that track for that matter anywho, this song has more editing done than a britney spears song, I hope i'm not the only one who hears it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exafro Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Well you said you couldn't get it that tight without editing. I was just saying you could get pretty close. Anyway, that track is all studio magic, I wlnder how they'd pull it off live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chad_sux Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Well you said you couldn't get it that tight without editing. I was just saying you could get pretty close. Anyway, that track is all studio magic, I wlnder how they'd pull it off live. I don't wonder how...I just wonder why???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soilent Posted December 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 All of you guys are giving dood advice, but I think listening to this will give a clue to what I was advising:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQUyeQf01Qyou can have the best chops, and the tightest amp sound, but you will not get this super-tight start/stop of the guitars without manualy cutting/gating the guitar tracks Yeah, that's more what I'm talking about. Except I talking more about the waveforms in between the edits. I'm good at editing staccato parts, but it's syncing up those longer in between parts that's a bit more difficult. Either way, I think I've found my answer. I'll just have to track with a DI next time and edit that way. Thanks dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhr74 Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Anyone use Beat Detective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soilent Posted December 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 I've heard of people trying it, but ultimately say it's useless for guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exafro Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 soilent, how technical are we talking here? Is it just a matter of string noise and stuff like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members futurism Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 program a midi track with a clean guitar sound as the sourcerecord your real guitars with a DI trackvocalign the midi guitars as the timing master for the real guitarsreamp the real guitars congratulations, you sound like abandon all ships this actually works, vocalign is amazing, the way field recorded dialogue from movies is replaced after taking ambience impulses etc. is fascinating, ADR as its called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soilent Posted December 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 soilent, how technical are we talking here? Is it just a matter of string noise and stuff like that? Not extremely technical. I just wanted some ideas on how people make tighter productions. I'm actually thinking my recordings are not too bad. I did some editing on guitars today and it's sounding pretty good. I guess for some reason right after I track something I always feel like it's sloppy, but then when I go back and listen later on it sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DVaz Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Practice. +1 any kind of EQ, cut & paste will not improve Your playing PS. that's why most modern metal bands suck bit time, they can't play their own {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 All I use is a metronome and less gain than I would live.clipping and quantizing your tracks is like auto-tune to me......not the real deal and a complete misrepresentation of ones abilities. If you cant play it tight you need to practice it more. Unfortunately people pay you to make them sound as badass as possible, not put their flaws on blast under a microscope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Unfortunately people pay you to make them sound as badass as possible, not put their flaws on blast under a microscope. Word....this is also why I make no money at music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seano Porno Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Relevent tips! I'm litterally about to put together a small mac based recording rig (Like..I'm gonna install Logic 8 in a minute!). I've NEVER recorded with a computer before (as in...on my own, recorded in studios plenty of times). I have an Mbox2 as an interface, some KRK Rokit 5 G2s on some nice stands, a Plamer Dacappo for reamping, a 57, a Beta 58 and a midi controller keyboard. Starting totally from scratch here! Pretty daunting! I was gonna start with Garage Band, but I just thought I might as well spend the time learning a better program. At the moment I'm only bothered about getting ideas down and learning how to record myself with some programed drums etc. Wish me luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thisISjoel Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 All I use is a metronome and less gain than I would live. clipping and quantizing your tracks is like auto-tune to me......not the real deal and a complete misrepresentation of ones abilities. If you cant play it tight you need to practice it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Relevent tips! I'm litterally about to put together a small mac based recording rig (Like..I'm gonna install Logic 8 in a minute!). I've NEVER recorded with a computer before (as in...on my own, recorded in studios plenty of times). I have an Mbox2 as an interface, some KRK Rokit 5 G2s on some nice stands, a Plamer Dacappo for reamping, a 57, a Beta 58 and a midi controller keyboard. Starting totally from scratch here! Pretty daunting! I was gonna start with Garage Band, but I just thought I might as well spend the time learning a better program. At the moment I'm only bothered about getting ideas down and learning how to record myself with some programed drums etc. Wish me luck! Good luck man. once you get by the computer glitches ( with a mac there wont be many...oh noes fanboi )you'll be tracking so much you'll run out of ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seano Porno Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Good luck man. once you get by the computer glitches ( with a mac there wont be many...oh noes fanboi )you'll be tracking so much you'll run out of ideas! Haha...well...I'm sure I will be making "Please HELP" threads-a-plenty in the coming weeks! hahaha Cheers bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 I can't believe it took that long for this comment to come out. This is (in my experience) the #1 thing to tighten up a sound in the actual recording process assuming the playing itself is tight but that should be understood. (That's why they're still trying to figure it out ) If you're a tight rhythm player, you should be able to do it without tons of distortion, and when stacking, lots of distortion is going to sound overly compressed and bloated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 this thread brought the lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 There's really no substitute for well practiced and executed playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eschatologist Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Somewhat relevant thread, interesting read: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/743146-insane-guitar-tracking-experience.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassred Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Having chops and tight playing This = end of thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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