Members Macelind Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 He is right, it is statistically significant that white males commit the most acts of violence (and get caught) in this country. NIBRS + UCR collective data.They are not sure of why, but the government established a task force a few years ago that is heavy on the psychological evaluation of serial/spree killers to figure out how they tick. Maybe one day we will know? This is true. There does seem to be a correlation between serial killers/spree killers and race but, like they taught us in 7th grade science, correlation does not prove causation. My opinion is there is this assumption that if you're a vanilla, white, middle class, run of the mill, American male, you're supposed to be stable and well adjusted leaving the crazies overlooked. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 This is true. There does seem to be a correlation between serial killers/spree killers and race but, like they taught us in 7th grade science, correlation does not prove causation. My opinion is there is this assumption that if you're a vanilla, white, middle class, run of the mill, American male, you're supposed to be stable and well adjusted leaving the crazies overlooked. Just my opinion. white cow in a snowstorm phenomenon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 This is true. There does seem to be a correlation between serial killers/spree killers and race but, like they taught us in 7th grade science, correlation does not prove causation. My opinion is there is this assumption that if you're a vanilla, white, middle class, run of the mill, American male, you're supposed to be stable and well adjusted leaving the crazies overlooked. Just my opinion. Well, being a serial killer requires.... astounding intellect. Most serial killers are somewhat masterminds, though they may be deranged and you may feel they are not intelligent based on interviews and quotes, manipulating others to get your way and evading law enforcement are not EASY. spree killers on the other hand are just mentally incapable of functioning within our reality. They have a social and moralistic dissonance going on and can break fairly easily. We will never know how these people work. If you think about it, it isn't hard, it doesn't require a lot of intelligence, however, mental instability is rated highest significantly in middle class white Americans. Think about it yourself, it might not make you comfortable, but if you were to plan a murder-suicide, where would you go and how would you do it? Least security, a lot of people confined in small areas, etc. Fact is, there is no way of preventing this type of thing from happening. Security can help, but you will never find security guards in elementary school, churches, etc. Especially not ARMED guards that can actually make a difference. A security guard will be taken out just as easily as a child when it comes to fire power. Ban guns? won't matter. I can make something that will destroy entire office buildings out of a few products from Home Depot. Buying the materials months apart will not rouse suspicions. Getting it into a facility might be hard, but once the psychopath is ready to go, it doesn't matter if it makes it to the destination, it will do terrible damage. There are plenty of organizations fighting this, but honestly, THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. It is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Macelind Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Well, being a serial killer requires.... astounding intellect. Most serial killers are somewhat masterminds, though they may be deranged and you may feel they are not intelligent based on interviews and quotes, manipulating others to get your way and evading law enforcement are not EASY.spree killers on the other hand are just mentally incapable of functioning within our reality. They have a social and moralistic dissonance going on and can break fairly easily. We will never know how these people work. If you think about it, it isn't hard, it doesn't require a lot of intelligence, however, mental instability is rated highest significantly in middle class white Americans. Think about it yourself, it might not make you comfortable, but if you were to plan a murder-suicide, where would you go and how would you do it? Least security, a lot of people confined in small areas, etc. Fact is, there is no way of preventing this type of thing from happening. Security can help, but you will never find security guards in elementary school, churches, etc. Especially not ARMED guards that can actually make a difference. A security guard will be taken out just as easily as a child when it comes to fire power.Ban guns? won't matter. I can make something that will destroy entire office buildings out of a few products from Home Depot. Buying the materials months apart will not rouse suspicions. Getting it into a facility might be hard, but once the psychopath is ready to go, it doesn't matter if it makes it to the destination, it will do terrible damage.There are plenty of organizations fighting this, but honestly, THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. It is terrible. I agree 100% and the focus on gun control is completely reactionary. We, as a society, need to focus on the root of the problem and not just the results but that is too difficult to nail down quickly. If there is any progress made, it will take considerable time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Well, being a serial killer requires.... astounding intellect. Most serial killers are somewhat masterminds, though they may be deranged and you may feel they are not intelligent based on interviews and quotes, manipulating others to get your way and evading law enforcement are not EASY.spree killers on the other hand are just mentally incapable of functioning within our reality. They have a social and moralistic dissonance going on and can break fairly easily. We will never know how these people work. If you think about it, it isn't hard, it doesn't require a lot of intelligence, however, mental instability is rated highest significantly in middle class white Americans. Think about it yourself, it might not make you comfortable, but if you were to plan a murder-suicide, where would you go and how would you do it? Least security, a lot of people confined in small areas, etc. Fact is, there is no way of preventing this type of thing from happening. Security can help, but you will never find security guards in elementary school, churches, etc. Especially not ARMED guards that can actually make a difference. A security guard will be taken out just as easily as a child when it comes to fire power.Ban guns? won't matter. I can make something that will destroy entire office buildings out of a few products from Home Depot. Buying the materials months apart will not rouse suspicions. Getting it into a facility might be hard, but once the psychopath is ready to go, it doesn't matter if it makes it to the destination, it will do terrible damage.There are plenty of organizations fighting this, but honestly, THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. It is terrible. After seeing people posting bull{censored} all over facebook and forums since yesterday it's weird to see others that somehow still manage to think straight. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cropduster Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 It's because most white middle class kids are on SSRI's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Stupid thread. Racist in fact. {censored}ing this. You should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Losers with prior social and mental issues tend to gravitate toward violent and angry music; ie, metal. Losers build an elaborate revenge complex focused toward children and schools, possibly stemming from harassment for being a loser. Therefore, metal is the reason white people are shooting schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superflyinmonke Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 I agree 100% and the focus on gun control is completely reactionary. We, as a society, need to focus on the root of the problem and not just the results but that is too difficult to nail down quickly. If there is any progress made, it will take considerable time. Gun control is easier and cheaper to handle than social reform. People that need mental help often don't seek it, nor are there enough programs to allow them to do so should someone recognize they need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 The funniest part about this subject to me is, if you were to ask most white people what kind of person on the street would make them uneasy, if that person were walking behind them, it would probably be a young black male with baggy pants and a backwards hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Might sound silly but I don't think these kids are getting enough physical activity in their lives. They don't know how to take out their anger and aggression in a healthy way. They think using a gun to kill people is the easiest way to get attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Most of the shooters around here are black, they're just too dumb to bring enough bullets. :cop: This is far worse than what Tommy said. Hell, Tommy was right. Stupid {censored}ing white people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Most of the shooters around here are black, they're just too dumb to bring enough bullets. :cop: more quality material from the trailer park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exafro Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 I wonder what it is about my generation that seems to produce these kind of events. I mean, I know stuff like this has always happened, but there seems to be a bunch of them happening in recent memory. There has to be a way to identify people who are more apt to commit wanton acts of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 the only difference between this generation and last, is the speed at which information travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotcakes Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Culture of violence, militarism, INEQUALITY, lack of access to mental health care, "they're out to get us" mentality, inherent sociopathic competitiveness of modern society, and yes, availability of firearms all contribute. Banning guns won't do much, nor will increasing the ownership of them. We have to change the way we live. If people were as obsessed with loving one another as they were with contraptions that have no purpose whatsoever but to kill, it might be a good start.I'd like to see all weapons rendered ridiculous collectively by humanity.I understand the obsession. It's easy to feel like you're under attack, because you are, but the focus on who is doing the attacking is sadly misguided. Until we recognize what is really causing this twisted atomized society, all of the guns in the world will not help us.I tend to focus on jabs at the gun nuts, because they're just that, nuts. But the other end of the spectrum ignores the same truisms, and is purely reactionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeppelin Rules Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Because that group represents the highest proportion of tr population. If you really want to see if they're committing more than their share of spree killings, you have to examine it as a function of overall demographics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Originally Posted by Zeppelin Rules Because that group represents the highest proportion of tr population. If you really want to see if they're committing more than their share of spree killings, you have to examine it as a function of overall demographics NIBRS and UCR Murder rates per demographic and per capita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marshallnoise Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Originally Posted by Zeppelin Rules Because that group represents the highest proportion of tr population. If you really want to see if they're committing more than their share of spree killings, you have to examine it as a function of overall demographics This is the answer. Race has nothing to do with craziness like this event. Proportionally, whites make up 70% of the US. So I would expect roughly 7 out of 10 crazies to be white. Unless there is some genetic evidence showing one group of people more mentally prone to madness, there is simply no correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 {censored} food , violence in music/movies/video games etc, easy access to guns, low iq reality trash tv,isolation through cell phones/video games or peer group ......a society where drug dealers and criminals are more highly regarded than doctors, teachers etc no matter how you look at it ...ask yourself why so many people are on head drugs or diagnosed with ADD, depression, cancer or are obese ...and its only rising then look at other societies where you can have major catastrophies and no looting happens (japan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 not to mention the new celebrity page facebook...jesus christhttp://allfacebook.com/australian-fl...acebook_b38276 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zehn Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Originally Posted by cavemanic {censored} food , violence in music/movies/video games etc, easy access to guns, low iq reality trash tv,isolation through cell phones/video games or peer group ......a society where drug dealers and criminals are more highly regarded than doctors, teachers etc no matter how you look at it ...ask yourself why so many people are on head drugs or diagnosed with ADD, depression, cancer or are obese ...and its only rising then look at other societies where you can have major catastrophies and no looting happens (japan) I was waiting for you to list djent music as a possible cause too. I am dissapoint, son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Originally Posted by zehn I was waiting for you to list djent music as a possible cause too. I am dissapoint, son thats for dudes that can't get laid ...but its ok it looks like they are more into dudes in the bands they listen to anyway I mean meshuggah probably isn't that far off what neanderthals sounded like beating on things and screaming.....seriously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dhuber Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wow this is pathetic. See you HC in another 10 years I'm going back to TDPRI and Strat Talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zehn Posted December 15, 2012 Members Share Posted December 15, 2012 Originally Posted by dhuber Wow this is pathetic. See you HC in another 10 years I'm going back to TDPRI and Strat Talk! 10 posts in 11 years. You will be missed sorely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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