Members Rusty_Chains Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 I just recently purchased a Seagull Entourage Mini Jumbo and an Art & Lutherie Cedar dreadnaught. I don't have a whole lot of money invested in either but I love them and want them to stick around. Recently I have heard remarks that the Seagull and A&Ls are prone to warping even if well cared for. I know they have reinforcement bolts at the neck joint and I thought they were added to keep this from happening? I had an S12 that seemed to hold up fine for 2 years. It was used when I bought it and seemed fine. In fact, stability was one of the reasons I went Seagull this time around. Am I just paranoid that my favorite acoustics are going to go to {censored} on me in a few years or are there legit concerns regarding the longevity of these guitars that I have not been aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 I have a Seagull S6 with a spruce top. I've had it for about 7-8 years. thing is very solid. a few dings here and there sure but absouly no warping. i dont have a humidifier and i leave it on a stand in my room when not in use. It plays great i really have love for it and i've never had it set up. I'm kind of afraid to have it set up i dont want to mess with it but i'll probably do it in the near future. I also have some questions about seagulls but i wont hijack your thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rusty_Chains Posted October 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 Nah it ain't really hijacking. I've had both of mine setup. Godin guitars are all wayyyy too high in the saddle out of the box IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outdoorgb Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 I have the Seagull Mini-Jumbo Entourage also and have heard just a little about said warpping...I have had mine for one year and no issues. The set up on this guitar is great and I have not seen any changes. It is my office guitar and see's play 5 days a week. Would like to here more if anyone has info...probably a interweb "this happened to me" repeated many times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigald18 Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 I've also got an Entourage Mini Jumbo Rustic and it seems to be pretty sturdy.I've also heard that there can be structural issues with Seagulls but I haven't had any problems. It is a great fingerpicking guitar! bigald18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myredshoes Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 I've owned several Seagulls (S6+, Coastline Grand , Coastline S6) and currently (since last week) have an Entourage dread that a friend of mine had since we were selling them a year or so ago. I've sold quite a number of these and while I have lowered the saddle on almost all of them I have never before this thread heard of or encountered any warping issue or had any returned for structural concerns. I do not sell guitars anymore but if I did I would be very proud to sell Seagulls. Excellent for the price in my opinion. This Entourage Rustic is a less expensive model but has a slightly narrower neck that I prefer and seems constructed with the same care as all of the other Seagulls I've examined and played. I assume it will outlast me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kimona Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 Earlier this year, I sold my 10 year old A&L Cedar dreadnought. Never did a thing to care for it in any special way, and it looked like the day I got it... without any issues whatsoever. I suffered some regret over selling that guitar, so when I found another on craigslist for $100, I snatched it up. This one is about 5 years old and spent all its life in the California desert, and it's in absolutely perfect health. Until this thread, I never heard anything about warpage issues with A&L or Seagull guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted October 29, 2008 Members Share Posted October 29, 2008 Some small rumor or 1 in 5000 defect can snow ball into "every seagull warps" or "I heard they warp so I think they do warp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted October 29, 2008 Members Share Posted October 29, 2008 Never heard anything bad about Seagulls here. Just love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ESL94 Posted October 29, 2008 Members Share Posted October 29, 2008 I have a Seagull S6 with a spruce top. I've had it for about 7-8 years. thing is very solid. a few dings here and there sure but absouly no warping. i dont have a humidifier and i leave it on a stand in my room when not in use. When I owned the S series guitars I never had a problem. Just played them & left them out on the stand, or the back of my truck. With my M series, I either have them in their case or on a stand ready to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TSMusic Posted October 29, 2008 Members Share Posted October 29, 2008 My A & L has been great. The only issue I ever had with it was that the truss rod wasn't tightened down at the factory. For a while there it was real sensitive to heat and humidity changes. Once I figured out what was the problem, it's been fine. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rusty_Chains Posted October 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2008 I have never had a problem either. My only concerns have been the softness of the top. I do a lot of slap harmonics and was dinging my A&L with my thumbpick. I added a right-hand self-stick pickguard to the other side of the soundhole flipped upside down to solve the problem and I can beat the hell out of it now. Both guitars are incredibly solid and I had them setup from day one. Have not had a problem and I hope I never well. If anything, this thread is making me feel more assured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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