Members CaptainCoconut Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 http://www.music123.com/Ibanez-AEG10E-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar-519982-i1150882.Music123 ^ Cons - small sound when unplugged Pros - cut away, electric with built in tuner http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/reviews?base_pid=518369&page=2&sc=date&so=desc ^ Cons - Again small sound, No cut away design and no electric pickups Pros - it's an epiphone? Basically, I have small hands but I want a big sound! - all for around the $300 dollar mark. But when I say "big tone", not like clanky and steel like - but warm and jazz like. Is it safe to assume that the Epiphone will be louder than the Ibanez (unplugged)? And will it be that much of a difference to justify picking it up over the Ibanez? So now I just need input from someone who actually knows something... about anything! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NotDead Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 Cutaways(in my opinion) are all but useless on acoustics. Once you're that high on the fretboard, there's not much volume, the timbre of the strings is off, it's just not something you look for. You're not doing meedly meedly meedly meeeeeeoooouuuuggggh solos on this, and if you find yourself past the 12 fret, you're probably gonna wanna see how you could rephrase things. Anyway, these acoustics are MADE to be plugged in. They have chunks cut out for heavy onboard EQ, and have bodies made counter productively to vibration, meaning they're not gonna superb acoustics. And subpar acoustics don't make superb amplified acoustic sounds. Get a good yamaha or other acoustic, if you can buy local, buy used, and play before you buy, take the pick of litter. Then pay the >$50 it is to get a soundhole pickup and endpin jack. You'll save a lot of hassle, cash, and in the long run be happier with your sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaptainCoconut Posted November 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 Well thank you for the quick response, your point about cutaways seems to me like a valid one.... What would you specifically suggest for a small handed midget such as myself? Also, the guitar shops in my area all overcharge so that's not an option for me and knowing my inexperience If purchasing a used guitar I'd probably pick up a lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NotDead Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 Well, just feel out guitars in your local area. Find what's good on your hands. Sometimes you don't need a smaller guitar(angus young rocks the same SGs as iommi, who is an entire foot taller). And if you need a smaller neck, Try capoing at the 3rd or 5th fret, it's easier to play there than at the nut for open chords, and your vocal range may be closer to there anyway. Do you plan to play mainly seated or standing? Acoustic body size may get in the way at first, but you learn to deal, nature of the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaptainCoconut Posted November 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 Seated primarily, yeah I'm not too worried about size, just neck width. Anyway I suppose I'll take your advice, I'm certainly not interested in either of those guitars anymore.. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NotDead Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 No problem. Find what fits. Some like baseball bat necks, others flat shredder necks, but most you'll find will be a rounded profile somewhere in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kimona Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 You're looking for a first guitar with a neck that's slim, comfortable, and easy to play with smaller hands. Your price range appears to be under $300, and you seem to prefer sunburst finish. This is the only guitar I would recommend: http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-FG720S-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=519168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members babablowfish Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 Excellent advice you have gotten so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slodge Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 I'm curious about your experience level. If you're just starting out, I would pass on the acoustic/electrics completely and find yourself a straight-out acoustic guitar. You'll get something that sounds better on its own, and if you ever need amplification, it not a difficult or expensive mod. Yamaha makes some good starters, and I was very happy with my Alvarez Regent (though that was a while ago.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 You're looking for a first guitar with a neck that's slim, comfortable, and easy to play with smaller hands. Your price range appears to be under $300, and you seem to prefer sunburst finish. This is the only guitar I would recommend:http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-FG720S-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=519168 For an extra 20 bucks I'd go with the FG730s, and that will still keep him under 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kimona Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 For an extra 20 bucks I'd go with the FG730s, and that will still keep him under 300. Great suggestion! Or, he could order the FG720S from here for under $240!!! http://www.instrumentalsavings.com/ShoppingCart.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxorox Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 Of the two, I'd probably go with the Epiphone, if it has a solid spruce top. If the description says "Spruce, Select Spruce" or anything other than "Solid Spruce", it's probably laminate. It's the same cost as their Dove and Hummingbird models that are solid, so it might be. Prettier too, IMO. While the pickup and tuner may sound like an advantage, You want the best guitar for the money. Tuner, pickup can wait. At this price point the cost of bells and whistles between solid wood and ply. While there area lot of very good laminate gutars out there, personally I would go for the solid spruce. And a good point is made about the Yammies. definately worth a look. I haven't had any experience with them myself, but if you search this forum you'll see a lot of people who swear by them. Long time posters whose opinion I respect highly. Whatever you decide, I envy you the thrill of buying a new acoustic guitar, and play, play, play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Samilyn Posted November 29, 2008 Members Share Posted November 29, 2008 My vote goes to the Yammies. Lots of git for very little bucks. Excellent build quality and sound. A good chromatic tuner is less than $20, so forget about onboard electronics and onboard tuners. Later, a nice K&K P'up can be added for less than $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 Great suggestion! Or, he could order the FG720S from here for under $240!!! http://www.instrumentalsavings.com/ShoppingCart.asp There is a new FG720S on ebay for $259.99 FREE shipping. With Live.com Cashback eligibility of $78!!!! ($181.99) I'm almost ready to pull the trigger myself! Also a FG730S on the bay for $249.99 + 43.28 shipping ($293.27) less $75 cashback! ($218.27) wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shemp Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 http://instruments.shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=seagull&_sacat=619 Buy a used seagull. Don't even consider any other suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 http://instruments.shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=seagull&_sacat=619 Buy a used seagull. Don't even consider any other suggestion. Every seagull I have played under a grand has not impressed me that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 dollar cars Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 i'd go with an epiphone. i've had mine for 10+ years and it has never failed me. i think i paid maybe, $140 for it. the neck is nice and thin so if you have smaller hands that might be the way to go. are you planning on playing an acoustic a lot or just once in a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guildfire Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 Of the two, I'd vote for the Epiphone. I got one and its a keeper in that price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 You want a "big sound"? Skip those two small bodied guitars and go with a dread. Yamaha and Alvarez make nice dreads with slim necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RobandMartin Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 http://instruments.shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=seagull&_sacat=619Buy a used seagull. Don't even consider any other suggestion. He specified a slim neck, Seagull's 1.8 inch neck would be a little much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Montagman Posted November 30, 2008 Members Share Posted November 30, 2008 I agree I was trying out the seagulls at the GC store yesterday the necks are very chunky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seagullplayer77 Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 He specified a slim neck, Seagull's 1.8 inch neck would be a little much. Would've also recommended a 'Gull, but when he said he wanted a slim neck, I decided against it. Seagull necks are pretty beefy, although I think they make some slimmer models. CaptainCoconut, do you have a local Craig's List, by any chance? If you do, there's almost certainly going to be some killer guitar deals on there...If you can, I'd certainly give CL a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaptainCoconut Posted December 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Allot of helpful replies here, thanks guys! I went to the local pawn shops yesterday, most of the guitars looked really beat up so I decided against that. Then I went to a few guitar chain stores. Some pretty good deals on used acoustics but nothing I was really interested in. Anyway I'm planing on playing the heck out of whatever I decide to get, I'm past the beginner stage for sure so I want something that I will play forever. I'm heading over to ebay and craigs list right now, thanks again everyone. Edit - TBH the thing that throws me off about the Yahamas are the cheap looks and from what I've heard plain/clanky tone. About the epiphone EL-00, can anyone confirm if it sounds equal to the gibson L-00? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since you're looking on ebay, check out this vintage tokai I scored recently. The guy, a japanese seller, has several more similiar to this beauty. I recommend highly. I have been looking for a nice acoustic for awhile and have tried tons. A big fan of tokai LP's, I stumbled across these Martin replicas. And I am so glad I did. This thing is amazing. I agree with getting a guitar w/o electronics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted December 1, 2008 Members Share Posted December 1, 2008 OopsIt doesn't have a slim neckBut it's very comfortableOT:5 Days from Japan to my door!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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