Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Ok, it's actually my Burny. I'm wondering if a change of pots would help. I equalize it now with pretty good results, but I'd still like it to be bright inherently. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarRules Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 what kind of strings? On my elitist I have found that the GHS boomers are by far the brightest I have used and I ictually think they sound great on an LP. Sound is such a "preferential" thing though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 D'Addario 10s. Maybe I'll give the boomers a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarshallTim Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Pick very close to the bridge... Seriously though, different pickups would probably help a great deal. What kind are in there now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeff Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Strange. Most traditional LPs are pretty bright. Are you sure it's your guitar and not your amp? Try a treble booster stomp box. I put these caps on one of my LP Classics. It brightened it up slightly. http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/electrical_capsorange.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Guy Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Try lowering your pickup height a bit. The pickups could be 'hot' and creating a muddy sound since they could be too high. Picking towards the bridge can help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheBoatCanDream Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 What material is the bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by MarshallTim Pick very close to the bridge... Seriously though, different pickups would probably help a great deal. What kind are in there now? That may be it. It has the Burny VH1s in there, and equalized I love their tone. Very PAF. Been thinking about throwing some Burstbucker Pros in there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by docjeff Strange. Most traditional LPs are pretty bright. Are you sure it's your guitar and not your amp? Try a treble booster stomp box.I put these caps on one of my LP Classics. It brightened it up slightly.http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/electrical_capsorange.htm I'm sure it's the guitar since it's just as dark through any amp I play through. Thing is, it might sound just like it's supposed to, but my preference may have shifted to a brighter sound. The treble booster is a great idea. I'll probably change out the caps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by TheBoatCanDream What material is the bridge? The bridge and stopbar tail piece are aluminum. I'll try lowering the pickups too, but I don't think they're that high. All these ideas together are probably what I need. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 You know, I have recently been thinking the same about my PRS Custom. It's just too middly and dark to get a clean sound that I like. Depending on whether or not it's brighter clean sounds or brighter dirty sounds you're after, you might want to consider installing a Push/Pull switch for coil-tapping. The PRS has coil-tapping and the 'inside coils of both pickups' position is brighter and more transparent than either of the humbuckers alone - but it'll never give you the punch and presence of a real single coil (assuming that's what you're after). Alternatively, you might want to consider fitting the DiMarzio Eric Johnson (EJ custom) humbuckers. I'm very tempted to give them a try. Here's the blurb from the DiMarzio site: Although Eric Johnson is best known as a Strat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeff Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by Sparky6string That may be it. It has the Burny VH1s in there, and equalized I love their tone. Very PAF. Been thinking about throwing some Burstbucker Pros in there though. Original PAF's are much brighter than most people think. Go to a vintage shop and ask to play an old ES175, 335, or something similar. I haven't seen any 58--60 LPs in the L.A. vintage shops lately, but I played an LP Custom with PAFs recently, and it was much brighter than I would have thought. The writers for Vintage Guitar also commented on the brightness of the originals in a PAF Clone roundup several months back. I have BB Pros on one of my LP Classics. I used it for a gig last Sunday afternoon (usually I prefer my other LPs with with 57 Classics). I was surprised at how well they blend with the other instruments in our band, especially when played clean thru my Orange AD-15. Very chimey and bell-like. I videotaped the gig, and I'll try to get a clip processed later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by Richard Guy Try lowering your pickup height a bit. The pickups could be 'hot' and creating a muddy sound since they could be too high. Picking towards the bridge can help too. Exactly what I was going to say. One would think that would be the first thing you'd try. And possibly lower the bass side a little more than the treble,if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kherman Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by docjeff I put these caps on one of my LP Classics. It brightened it up slightly.http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/electrical_capsorange.htm That was my thought.Different capacitor. But, a pickup change may help considerably.Not just for tone. But for more dynamics, sustain, and clarity as well. I didn't care for the stock pickups in my Diodati 59Q.The were a vintage PAF replica. Gotoh I believe.Who tend to make most of the pickups you find in Japan replica guitars. Anyways, they were dull, no dynamics, no sustain.Just had a blah even tone. Flat sounding.I put the Carvin H22n/C22b combo in it.Made a huge difference. I got dynamics, sustain, and clarity now.Much more full sounding. So, if you have a favorite brand of pickup, maybe swap the Burny pickups out for those.Another set I like is the Duncan Jazz/JB combo. I have that in my Fernandes Ravelle.I'm surprised Fernandes doesn't put Duncans in the Burny line as well. Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by docjeff Very chimey and bell-like. That sounds exactly like what I'm after. The thing I like about my Deluxe's mini humbuckers more than full sized hums is the chimeyness! Love that sound... Of course it still has to sound like a LP when driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Guy Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 The cap comes into play if you turn your tone knobs off '10'. with the tone knobs on '10', the effect of the cap is very small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeff Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by Sparky6string Of course it still has to sound like a LP when driven. Don't worry. The Alnico 5 magnets easily get my LP into the drive zone with mucho gusto and creamy smoothness--I have to back off on the tone controls a bit with my Marshall and THD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members robt57 Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 A friend just did something to his Goldtop to get the same thing going on. I think it was this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonP Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 I think your original idea was good-start with pots and caps to get a good foundation. Work your way up from there. I use 550K CTS pots in my historic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by robt57 A friend just did something to his Goldtop to get the same thing going on. I think it was this: Sweet! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sparky6string Posted August 9, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by DonP I use 550K CTS pots in my historic. All the way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Guy Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 The drawing is very nice. Early Telecasters had a very close circuit. You could just put a .001 cap across the signal legs of the volume pot for the same effect. Here is how it works; As you turn down the volume of the guitar, you will not loose highs with this circuit installed. If you are saying that your guitar sounds dull/muddy with the tone and volume controls maxed, there is a different issue to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonP Posted August 9, 2005 Members Share Posted August 9, 2005 Originally posted by Sparky6string All the way around? Yes, and NOS Bumble Bee caps, 50's wiring. With the BB 1&2, it sound bright yet powerful. Good pinch harmonics. Not "beaming and harsh" like my 100% stock 2002 LP Std with BB Pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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